Deputy discovered judge, defense attorney in subdivision

Relationship between former judge English, attorney Cornwell remains under investigation

Well more than a year and a half ago, a Fayette County sheriff’s deputy came across a suspicious vehicle parked in a subdivision under construction, in the middle of the workday.

Little did he know that inside the car he would find a Superior Court judge along with a public defender. The judge was Chief Superior Court Judge Paschal A. English Jr. and the defense attorney was Kim Cornwell, facts confirmed today by Fayette County Sheriff Wayne Hannah.

A purported “improper intimate relationship” between English and Cornwell is being investigated by Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard and Public Defender Joe Saia. The investigation was ordered two weeks ago by Superior Court Judge Christopher C. Edwards two days before English served his last day on the bench, having tendered his resignation the previous week.

Hannah said he did not know the circumstances behind why Judge English and attorney Cornwell were in the vehicle in the subdivision. The incident took place before Hannah took office as sheriff, and he said he has not asked for an accounting of the incident because it did not occur “on my watch.”

“If the deputy said they were talking or not, I don’t know,” Hannah said. “I really don’t know.”

Attempts to reach English and Cornwell for comment have been unsuccessful as of this writing.

If there was some sort of personal relationship between English and Cornwell, it would be suspect that English would not have recused himself from cases involving Cornwell, who has been the lead public defender on several high-profile cases in the past several years.

Sheriff Hannah said it would be unlikely that the deputy’s investigation of the suspicious car containing English and Cornwell would have generated any type of written report. Typically as long as the occupants are law abiding, they might be allowed to stay or perhaps asked to leave the area depending on the circumstances, Hannah said.

Public Defender Joe Saia said two weeks ago that his office conducted a detailed examination of Cornwell’s cases in front of Judge English to see if there was any apparent prejudice when comparing the outcome of her clients to those of the office’s other two attorneys. Saia said that part of the probe detected no such bias.

District Attorney Scott Ballard said today that he would not comment on any aspect of the investigation at this point. Previously he has said he hasn’t been able to detect any bias for or against Cornwell in cases she had before Judge English.

Sheriff Hannah said Ballard’s office has already interviewed the deputy who found English and Cornwell in the vehicle, and if there is any other way his office can help with the investigation, it will.

English tendered his resignation last month, four days after fellow Superior Court Judge Johnnie L. Caldwell Jr. resigned in the wake of an investigation by the Judicial Qualifications Commission. Caldwell soon after publicly admitted to making inappropriate comments to female attorneys.

Several days later, The Citizen learned that Caldwell’s resignation followed the revelation of him making sexually charged comments to ... and about ... Peachtree City divorce attorney Susan Brown. The comments became part of a divorce case because Brown, in a private discussion with Judge Edwards, contended Caldwell had entered unfair rulings in the case due to the alleged sexual harassment.

Brown told The Citizen that in fall 2008 she informed Chief Judge English about Caldwell’s inappropriate remarks to her, but English took no action and instead told her to work the matter out with Caldwell on her own.

Edwards, who was presiding over the divorce case in question, made sure that attorneys for all parties were aware of the allegation of judicial bias because of the potential impact it may have had on the case. In an effort to try the two and a half year old case, Edwards asked attorneys to waive objections to all previous orders entered in the case, but ultimately he had a new attorney appointed for the wife in the case whom Brown was representing.

That attorney, Gary Freed of Atlanta, later filed a motion asking Edwards to recuse himself from the case, further delaying the trial. Edwards was hoping to try the case to avoid such a delay as the guardian ad litem for the couple’s two children had suggested.

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Totally agree--- had they been kids

Totally agree--- had they been kids they would have found themselves, heels locked, in front of a judge.

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I've never understood

the want to call everyone in front of a Judge for a little hanky panky.

Had they had been kids, they should have been warned and told to get home. :)

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They were "parking"...

end of story...it's been going on for years....

Folks having hanky panky...you can have all the rules you want about it, and it won't make one hill of beans difference.

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I don't mean to be rude but I intend to just sit back and

wait for the truth without further comment.

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BLJ

Glad to see your back...I for one am waiting for the truth...

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I respect that BLJ...

And the truth will come out, one way or another.

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??

Did the officer that found them get fired??

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Why would the deputy be fired?

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Did I say he did? I asked if

Did I say he did? I asked if he did. Do you always answer questions with questions?

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Belle

I stated this thread is written by the Citizern and is about the Judge , The Public defender and there sitting in a car in a housing development under construction.
It is not about Crook V Crook or about Susan Brown, though it seems your determined that it should be.. enjoy yourself..

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Jack DoDo

I think you meant to say "they're". What great institute of higher learning did you hail from?

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If you can't debate 'em, attack their spelling.

Probably the same institute that taught you to end your sentence in a preposition.

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Wrong again Jevank!

Prepositions MUST be placed at end of sentences when the sentence begins with an interrogative pronoun i.e. Where, What, Which etc.
It is CORRECT to say "Where are you from?" "What did you step on?" "Which person do you want to be with?"

Go on...try again!

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Priceless, Jevank

so often we complain about the speck in another's eyes, whilst disregarding the plank lodged in our own eye. Thanks for pointing that concept out to another :-)

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You too need to go back to school

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thanks...

what a wit you are!

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Why so angry, PSB?

Does your mommy know you're up this late?

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It's ok jevank, I am very content

I have pointed out how entirely incorrect you are.
I am happy with that.. Have a good night!

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PSB, all that you have shown

is faulty logic. You pointed out errors in grammatical construction--a relatively useless concept in a local blog--and pointed these errors out while making errors yourself. Ironic perhaps, hypocritical perhaps, but amusing, definitely. Pull out your learnings from cotillion and try again.

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Wedge, only reply should be

"Thank you Sir--may I Please have another!

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Edwards Doesn't Need Your Help does he?

I am not sure why you are standing up for a Judge that tried to force two parties to sign away their legal rights to thier due process, specifically the right to appeal any decision made by a Judge where there was an admited inappropriate relationship with one of the attorneys.

I am not sure why you are standing up for a Judge that didn't immediately execute his sworn oath to notify the JQC when he learned of the inappropriate relationship.

I am not sure why you are sticking up for a Judge that ordered the Public Defender to investigate his own office instead of using his power to request an independent investigation.

I am not sure why you are sticking up for a Judge that ordered the District Attorney to investigate the Court where he practices, instead of requesting an independent investigation.

I have my theories, based on the very rudementary powers of deduction, but they are just speculation.

So, why are you sticking up for now Chief Judge Edwards?

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No Sugar he doesn't need my help, you do

'Cause there's a difference between knowing a fact and hearing a rumor. If the rumors are credible enough then an investigation is ordered.

The inside investigation has a pretty big benefit: a TON of local folks are scared. Those who have skeletons in the closet will end up "retiring" or "having a health scare" and the like. Hell, Ballard's got to be scared because if he pooh-poohs it, he's likely to get bounced next election. Pressure's on him to ferret it out.

The GBI, etc would only whitewash an investigation 'cause they don't care. Feds have much bigger fish to fry. JQC is out unless someone can prove Edwards knew of English-Cornwell well in advance, which I seriously doubt. But I've been wrong before though...

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I appreciate the offer

The only facts I know are those as reported in the media. I agree that rumors aren't worth the paper they are printed on. I hope you are right, and those that have no business being in their current roles decide to spend more time with their families.

I do have a problem with allowing people that have committed crimes, but never stuck around long enough to be charged, tried, and found guilty to leave and collect government pensions. That is the main reason I think there needs to be an independent investigation. It doesn't need to be GBI, it could be any outside attorney without a dog in the hunt to be appointed as a Special Prosecutor. As you state, the current DA has a reason to do something. I am just not convince that something is everything.

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Abuse of Power

If you boil this down to basics for those who slept through ethics class.... The judges were using their position on the bench to get hot young attorney booty. The end.

I think Judge Edwards first instinct was to cover it up. That says a lot.

I think Cornwell is one of those attorneys who went all in to get her clients off so she can charge a nice large fee.

I think Brown got highly offended when caldwell tried to bring her into the game.

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Anon missed the boat

You missed the boat on some of your comments. First, regardless of what else she may or may not have done, Ms. Cornwell is certainly not gaining any "nice large fee" as a Public Defender. In fact, they are paid very little for the services and hours that they put in. They are county/state paid and definitely are not paid by clients (they must be indigent to receive a court appointed attorney) regardless of the outcome. Also, you feel that "Brown got highly offended" after reporting an incident that happened as much as 3 years ago and continued numerous social outings with Judge Caldwell in attendance. Not sure how offended she was that it took that long to surface. And finally, so much of the improprities have come to light because of Judge Edward's ethical actions. Not sure what he himself was covering up. Someone had to step up and take action, and unfortunately, Judge Ewards is taking a great deal of misplaced heat.

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Jack, put your glasses back on

This has nothing to do with Mr. Crook (freudian slip on your part?)

A judge that has a friendly relationship beyond the courtroom (and money makes strange bedfellows ie: bank board in case you are not grapsing the thought)as Alan Connell does with Caldwell, made it unethical to say the least tht he did not recuse himself from any of Caldwell's cases. There are many others cases beyond Crook that I am sure did not get a fair hearing.

To take it a step further, he also had his hand in English's pocket, as
shown by English storming Edward's courtroom (Crook case) and having a loud meeting in the back for all to hear. Whom do you think let English know about that, Connell would be a logical guess.

Go ahead, your turn!

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Many victims here

I don't know the families of any of the named participants in this situation - but there are so many more victims than is being reported in the news articles. Namely - the families of all involved. It is important for us all to remember that we don't live in a vacuum - and our actions have far reaching effects on every member of our family. This is truly a tragedy for all involved. Careers are ruined, reputations questioned. Sad.

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David's mom I agree with you.

I especially don't think family and friends of either side of the divorce should be blogging. The situation does not need to be agravated any further.

P.S. I am neither family or friends of either side.

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Allegations show judiciary system run amok AJC Today

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Oh for crying in the mud....
positivelysouthernbelle wrote:

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Here is the LINK to the AJC article in question

Absolutely NO ONE in the Griffin judicial circuit comes out clean in this mess.

English shows a blatant contempt for attorneys "Don't file anything...I'll throw it in the trash".

Caldwell needs to have his license to practice law permanently revoked.

Cal Beverly's pet judge Edwards seemed more interested in covering the asses of his judicial brethren than doing his job until the heat got too great, at which time he prudently threw his judicial brethren under the proverbial bus to save his own posterior.

DA Ballard the Dullard thumbs his nose at the public, saying there ain't nothin' wrong with him doin' some fine investigatin' when he himself is a judicial replacement candidate.

English and his little love muffin were apparently an "open secret", according to the Barnesville news, dating back to when she threw a coming home party for English post-Survivor.

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Chris P. and Judge Edwards...

Read the transcript. If it WASN'T for Edwards, this stuff would've remained hush-hush. You see, he had Mrs. Brown fully explain the allegations to counsel for both sides. At that point, the proverbial beans were spilled.

Edwards also ordered up an outside attorney for the defendant (wife) to review whether or not a recusal should be sought in the case. (this added another set of loose lips and that attorney, Gary Freed, was most likely the one who filed the JQC complaint on Caldwell).

Were Edwards to cover his fellow judges' butts, he would've kept his mouth shut, tried the case (and been guilty himself of not bringing prejudicial information forward in the case), etc. But he did NOT do that.

And you're confusing English's love muffin, which was NOT Susan Brown.

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Bacon you've got it all screwed up

The love muffin is not Susan Brown it's the public defender. Brown is the one who threw the survivor party. I was there and can tell you, the public defender was NOT there.

Just keeping the story straight.

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Allegations show judiciary system run amok AJC Article Today
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Alan Connell's name keeps coming up

in a most unflattering light...perhaps he requires a "looking into" as well!

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unflattering light on another attorney's name

If you think Mr. Connell is doing something other than serving on a banks board with a now former judge then report him for investigation..

You seem to have an agenda here in cutting and pasting the AJC article verbatim and now wanting an attorney "looked into"

Who might you be positivelysouthernbelle ?? Inquiring minds would love to know..

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Oh what a wicked web we weave...

"Connell.....what a joke
One of your Thomaston brethren here ol' Alan. Your antics are widely known. The internet is your worst enemy. So much information at everyone's fingertips. You really wanted this case over quickly? Then why did the defense have to file a motion for contempt in March 2010 because your client didn't comply with court ordered discovery? How could the case possibly move forward? Keep spinning that tale ol' Alan. I have a broken watch...and even it's correct twice a day. More than I can say for you."
4-24-10 post by Thomaston_Born

Just more food for thought there Jack old boy!

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Positively Southern. You know a lot!

Yet you don't want to share much here... Why not call Munford and give him the scoop?

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Jack--conflict of interest in how many cases??

This was posted on the Citizen 4-23

"Something else stinks on the divorce case
Caldwell and the estranged husband's attorney Alan Connell are on a board of bank together.....isn't that a conflict of interest??? He should have recused himself a long time ago!

Checkout West Central Georgia Bank website

http://www.wcgb.com/aboutus.asp

Board of Directors

Jesse E. Rogers, Jr. – Chairman of the Board
Johnnie L. Caldwell, Jr.
Kenneth E. Coggins
Alan W. Connell
James A. Robinson, Jr.
Jeffrey Rogers
Charles D. Short"

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Jack to each his own...

"I recently had a friend divorce in another circuit
His now Ex was represented by Ms Brown -- They very simply split and had a couple of issues for mediation... Several months later after a variety of delays and continuances,, they settled for what was originally discussed ..

Unfortunately for some lawyers it's all about the face time and the money."
Your post from 4-24

Seems you have a prob. with Ms Brown~

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do I have a problem with Ms Brown ?

I have a problem with any lawyer who drags things out takes something to court and asks for continuances and is worried not about their client but about there own pay day...

I am not here as a judge but I do know an agenda when i see one.

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We all agree

We all agree that no one wants to be represented by any counsel that pads their bill by using continuances and other legal methods.

The issue here is that we all should be able to walk into any courtroom in the land and reasonably expect that justice will be served without any bias due to relationships of any kind between the judge and any of the involved parties. This is a simple and fundemental expectation.

Unfortunately, when relationships of any kind exist between the judge and any party in front of them, the perception is that bias of some kind will exist. This is why every judge has the ability to recuse themselves without stating a reason and either party can request a new judge, just because. The nature relationship is no one's business if this happens.

The problems that have arisen in the Circuit Court come from the failure of judges to recuse themselves when they should have. I do understand that in a small pool, there is only so much you can do. But this is no excuse. Justice must be blind and it can't be if the judge has a relationship of any kind with one of the parties.

In Crook v. Crook, the allegations state that there are relationships of various natures with both parties Attorneys. Based on the resulting resignation, one perceives that the allegations have some validity. This is unacceptable.

One should also be to expect that judges will live up to the highest ethical standards as prescribed within the laws they swear to uphold. One of these is that when you see something wrong, you report it. Now Chief Judge Edwards did not report it, he tried to bury the allegations, whether he saw them or not, through the use of Agreed Order that both parties were asked to sign under duress. His claim that he was trying to keep the best interests of the children as his excuse not to uphold the law is convoluted at best. Would anyone really think that allowing rulings over two years from a series of biased judges that lay the groundwork for everything from custody and visitation to future support is in the children's best interests?

I do not think that anyone here is out to do anything other than elevate the discourse about justice within the legal system that is supposed to serve us all equally.

Anything else is up to the Judicial Qualifications Commission and the voters.

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List of replacement candidates for English/Caldwell

The Barnesville News has leaked a list of candidates to fill the two open judicial positions caused by the disgraceful resignations of English and Caldwell.

Click to see the list

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Thanks, Chris P

I predicted John Mrosek from the start. It's interesting to see how many people are looking to be appointed against how many people will actually try to get elected.

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Same old politics

Doesn't it bother anyone else that a twice ran and twice defeated attorney is being pushed by a former mayor very hard. Seems that if the county is looking to avoid the old politic connections and get some honest, non-connected judges, Mr. Mrosek is still not the candidate. Just take a look at Mr. Browns endorsement or the AJD article that quotes only Mr. Brown and Mr. Mrosek (apparently the only attorney at the courthouse). Let's hope the judicial selection is more interested in finding a qualified judge than a politically connected wanna be and I'll nominate my self first.

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Eagleeye

It bothers me a lot. I hope my post doesn't make you think I want Mrosek in, and it's no secret that I'm not a fan of Steve Brown.

An appointment for John Mrosek would almost guarantee he is elected. If you recall, Fayette County voters favored Mrosek last time. And with Scott Ballard and Warren Sellers on the list, there is just too many opportunities for those questionable connections to continue.

Now, Pat Fox....There is a name I was surprised to see. He might be the one to watch for.

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Credentials will hopefully rise to the top

After reviewing the names on the nominations list, there are some outstanding credentials on that list. State Judge Sams has a very good record and is well connected in Fayette county. There are several trial attorneys that have outstanding records beyond Fayette, Pike and Upson counties. Check some of them out on Martindale Hubbell for ratings or statebar.org for educations, etc. They may not have the political connections or history, but they certainaly look like oustanding jurists (and isn't that what we should want for our courts?).

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Yes

Judge Sams is the most logical choice for the job.

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Isn't it peculiar....

that The Citizen has not continued this (obviously) continuing story??
Cal did you end your coverage with your Editorial this week?
If so, you are in error my dear man.

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Empty Subdivision

What else are empty subdivisions good for these days?

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lol, Good one Grassroots.

What else indeed.

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BS

It sounds like there are a lot of people trying to cover up a lot of shady stuff done by powerful people. Those that are covering for others must have something just as bad to hide if they are risking their careers to protect someone. We need an investigation that is not "in-house." How in the world are we supposed to sit here and smile and pretend nothing is odd about a Judge telling these men at the DAs and public defenders offices..."I have been made aware of BAD BAD BAD ethics violations in this court case. I tried to get these two parties here to sign a legal document stating that they didn't object to any of these BAD BAD BAD ethics violations with regard to the case in question. Then after being yelled at by my chief judge, I decided to be rather hostile towards one particular party and I threatened to start that trial that same hour. Now that everyone is watching, I am going to act like I give a crap that these BAD BAD BAD ethics violations occurred. Now you take all these facts and go back to your offices and come back here on this predetermined date and tell me if you think anything went on. Ok boys!"

Like either of these men are going to run back there pointing out everything that is wrong about this whole situation. BAD BAD BAD

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Anon ... U blaming Edwards?

That's funny b/c without Edwards bringing the "alleged judicial improprieties" into the Crook case, no one would be the wiser.

Instead, Edwards ordered Susan Brown to tell all attorneys in the Crook case; then he ordered a special counsel for Mrs. Crook to help her determine if she should ask for a recusal in light of the alleged misconduct from Caldwell and English.

In case you missed it, it was that special counsel, Gary Freed, who most likely filed the JQC complaint on Caldwell and perhaps English as well.

So if Edwards was trying to "cover up" for his fellow jurists, he did a FREAKING HORRIBLE job!

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They resign or retire to cover up their past...

Jordan quietly left the SO and a so called investigation was supposed to happen but that was a joke. They want us to think there is an on going investigation but guess what...negative! Yep, the so called "powerful people" cover up for others and sometimes, unfortunately, don't want to risk their careers in order to tell the truth. Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do when they come for you... :)

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lol Road Runner

I don't think Jordan's departure was all that quiet.

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lol mbest

No mbest, we all know his departure was not quiet, but the investigation into all of it was a joke. That is how it is around here...they all leave there positions to hush the mess that went on. What investigation...lol...

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Time for my say Road Runner. I'm using my real name, and yours?

I have returned to this site in the clear, using my name, after receiving a call telling me that my name was once again being spewed on these blogs. I hesitated to respond because life is very good for my family and me now and I’m not sure anything could be accomplished here trying to argue one’s case. I did very little to defend myself here four years ago due to the supposed looming investigation which never occurred even though I publicly asked for it in this paper.
Realizing that there are some who apparently intend to pummel me for life here, I will make an attempt to let the truth of the matter be exposed rather than the lies which continue to be blogged here - mis-information my family had to read and endure while I waited for the investigation which never came. Since all of the information involved should now be available under open records request I will ask Cal Beverly to investigate what Scott Ballard would not.
To say it simply; I was accused of using Federal Drug Seizure funds to send two deputies to protect a little league baseball team on their quest to the World Series of Little League baseball. The team was from Kiwainis Field’s recreation department and my son was on the team. The scandal cost me a job I’d held for 27 years (with no prior disciplines), my home, my car and most of what I owned short of my loving and supportive family. It’s an accusation which pales in comparison to many public official fiascos which have followed in this county but effective in its intent non-the-less.
My coming forward is further fueled by an email I received two weeks ago from the wife of one my former employees who bragged it was her that brought me down.
A proper investigation would reveal the following;

1.) Sheriff Randall Johnson was aware and had sanctioned the protection detail and received numerous cell phone calls from myself and the attending deputies during the trip informing him of its progress. All of these phone calls will appear on verbatim cell phone bills. There is also a video of me telling the deputies to call the Sheriff and tell him the score.

2.) I was never aware that any Federal Funds had been used on the trip and none of the
documentation secured for the funding was signed or approved by me. My
signature, which was normally required for such expenditures, appears on none of
the corresponding paper work.

3.) None of the funds expended were used for any of my expenses and I nor my family
received any benefit from them.

4.) Irregularities on the signature on the Federal check which secured the funds was
inconsistent with previous procedures.

5.) I was never aware Federal Funds had been used until Channel 5 News contacted
the department.

One of the questions will be why Scott Ballard did not investigate the matter. I expect he was under political pressure due to what would be revealed by an investigation.

Obviously there will be several people who will not want the matter revisited. I am not one of them.

Bruce Jordan
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Bruce

This is what I meant. Why didn't Scott Ballard investigate the matter, which I figured was due to polital pressure and what it would reveal. So what would have this "looming" investigation revealed? Go for it Bruce, do ask Cal Beverly to investigate what Scott Ballard would not. Did someone want you out?

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F.Y.I. Apparently Two Roadrunners Around Here!

Imagine my surprise when I see someone calling me out in the "Recent Commnets" section. Not to get into the middle of someone else's thread, just wanted to point out that since "Roadrunner" (me) and "Road Runner" (??) are two different birds. Carry on.

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Field Incident Report

Sigh...

Another shining example of how one bad apple looks after the other.

Best practices in law enforcement for over the last ten years states that any time an officer (or deputy) in the field encounters any person or thing of suspicious note, a Field Incident report is genterated. In the old days, these were done on paper. As technology progressed, the FI's were entered by clerks into a computer system that matched the name, vehicle make and model, license plate, against lists of people with warrents, or those wanted for an investigation, or stolen merchandise, etc. Hits against the list were then sent out accordingly for follow up. Today (and for over the last five years), officers have had the ability to enter a FI in the field. The technology enhanced policing at all levels. Bad guys are found much quicker.

Based on this approach, even if the Deputy told them to move along, a FI would have been taken and entered. If the pervs, I mean perps, were found a second time, the officer would not be so generous. This is the power of having accurate data in a timely fashion.

So, either a FI was taken and there is a record of it that could be obtained with a FOIA request, or the Deputy chose not to create one, against the Department's Standard Operating Procedure, in deference to the position of the people in the car. And I mean their professional positions.

Either way, this is just another reason why now Chief Judge Edwards must call for an independent investigation. Anything else implies that he too has something to hide.

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Shady

These guys break the rules they are sworn to uphold and then they lecture us about right and wrong.

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So where's the damage here?

If an exam of Cornwell's cases before English does not show any prejudice, what it appears to me is that we have two consenting adults engaged in a personal relationship that does not bleed over into either of their professional careers. Seems to me that the only damage here would be to whatever families they each might have and that is neither public nor state business. Does it reflect poor judgement and questionable moral character? Of course but I don't think that approaches a criminal offense.

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Really?

Really?
You could be unbiased when choosing between your significant other and a stranger that you have no emotional attachment to?
Really?
You would choose the stranger over your loved one without any fear of retribution?
Really?
You would trust your partner to do the sme thing after the day was over and not hold (or withhold) anything against you?
Really?
You can separate logic from emotion on a daily basis?
Really?
You don't see the perception of bias that exists now?
Really?
You think that "poor judgement" (your words not mine) is acceptable for a Judge.
Really?
You think that the two insiders appointed to look within their own orgnizations are going to find something was wrong?
Really?
You think that the citizens of the Circuit Court don't need or deserve an independent Special Counsel appointed to uncover every misdeed?
Really?

I hope that you are never forced to go before a Judge in the Circuit Court and have to wonder what what connection opposing Counsel has to them that your Attorney doesn't.
Really.

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nn and "Really"

All those comments sound like you're a "loser lawyer" to me. And thank you very much, I know how to avoid going before judges of any sort and therefore also how to avoid sorry-ass counsel. You might want to look for a different rabbit to jump rather than stand in solitary judgement of other people and their actions.

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In poor showing~

That the AJC can take a tidbit and make a real story, while our local
paper doesn't even report. If they do, it's a compilation of the AJC article.

What is this paper really good for? This is the "juiciest" story in a long time around here (enough to make regional and possibly national news) and The Citizen is ignoring it!

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poor showing by citizen

Please note the title of this ARTICLE ==
""Deputy discovered judge, defense attorney in subdivision"" John Mumford.

This is a Citizen story not an AJC story and I have yet to see a deputy finds judge and attorney story (this one) in the AJC)..

That IS the story but you HIJACKED the thread cutting pasting the AJC story so you could get Crook V Crook back as the topic.

""This is the "juiciest" story in a long time around here (enough to make regional and possibly national news) and The Citizen is ignoring it!""

Why is that so ? Please enlighten us ??

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Ok Jack ( I mean Mr. Crook)

see your agenda

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PSB

You do seem to have an issue with the Crook family.

No one but an ex-Crook would have such resentment that they feel the need to blame this whole fiasco on them.

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so your not asking Mr. Connell be investigated

You'd like Mr. Crook the husband investigated ??
That seems like it's getting a little personal..

From just reading te story about bad judges and a divorce case you as an outsider can determine one of the parties Crook V Crook needs to be investigated ??

Cal you may need to hire this one as a reporter sounds really eager !

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Jack, this one's for you!

"In an affidavit, Susan Brown said Caldwell made rulings against her client that contained information that was not brought up in court. “It appeared the rulings did not match the evidence,” Gary Freed, an attorney recently brought into the case by Brown, said in an interview last week. “It appeared [the husband’s] counsel had a close, working relationship with Judge Caldwell.”

That attorney, Alan Connell, and Caldwell are both directors on the board of the West Central Georgia Bank in Thomaston, according to the bank’s Web site. " from AJC article 5-16-10

But I suppose you will discredit the AJC as it is not as reputable as our Citizen!

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More Info

I think y'all will find a little bit more in-depth reporting this morning in the AJC.

http://www.ajc.com/news/fayette/allegations-show-judiciary-system-527559...

Just trying to be helpful.

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More of a Campaign Ad

The AJC article might have had more credibitlity had it not be centered around former mayor Brown's and his good friend John Mroseks opinions. Read more like a campaign opportunity than a factual article. Really, are we to believe that in the same article that quotes Brown that the reporter just happened to run into Mrosek at the courthouse. Guess we are all very stupid folks here in the southern counties.

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AJC Tomorrow

Looks like this is gonna play out tomorrow, probably on the front page of the Atlanta Journal. Bummer.

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Goil & Fayette Judicial Meltdown

You got it partly right---it will appear in the "Metro" Section, not on the front page.

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AJC Story on Fayette

AJC Story on Fayette Courthouse:

here it is ------------

http://www.ajc.com/news/fayette/allegations-show-judiciary-system-527559...

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AtHomeGym

Thanks for the info.

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Excuse me Sheriff "Not on my watch" Hannah but..

Weren't you a Division Commander over the deputy in question when this happened? And isn't this the sort of thing that is suppossed to show up in a police report? Two people nude in a public place, presumably not playing monopoly? Wouldn't that be a required written incident report if it were you and I? No probably not you, but me and everybody else.

That is probably the only real unknown in this "investigation". How much covering up was going on? Were there other incidents involving deputies walking in on things that should have been documented but were not? Scott Ballard is definitely not the one to investigate it. Maybe the Citizen will.

Also why no photo of the Public Defender? Pashcal's picture's been on the front page for weeks. Isn't she a public figure as well?

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Who said anything about them being nude???

I re-read the article and didn't read that. Please tell us it ain't so-

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southernboy-

Okay, it ain't so. They were wearin' big 'ol smiles.

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Had they been teenagers, a

Had they been teenagers, a radically different result would have occurred.

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radically different, indeed
ilockemup wrote:

Had they been teenagers, a radically different result would have occurred.

Yep, English might've faced 35 years hard time if he was a teenager

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"How Much Covering Up Was Going On?"

Uh, I think if things had been covered up, there wouldn't have been a police report.

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PTCGOIL that's the point. There is no police report.

That's why there's no details.

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mbest

Sorry, didn't read it well. So, who or what is the source of this tidbit of information? The deputy? Must be, I doubt Pappy or Kimmy have blurted it out.

Kinda like the ride-a-long with the cop I did years ago. We pulled over a car with expired out of state plates. When the cop got the drivers license and came back to the cruiser to do a check, he said he thought he recognized the name and asked me if I recognized the name. I said, yes, I think he's a judge here in Fayette County. He had told the cop it was his mother-in-law's car and she had just moved here and he had forgotten to get her plate switched over. He and I discussed it, and it was explained to me that as a professional courtesy, the p.d. doesn't ticket judges for minor things. That was my education from the outside. Never forgot it. And, I wasn't surprised then and still am not.

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Just Wondering....

I hope I never have to make a claim against my insurance policies with Ms. Crook. I'm afraid there won't be any money to pay out since she's spent all this money on her attorneys.

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My Personal Opinion Is This

I think Pappy thought he was back playing Survivor again.

He thought he could Outlast and Outplay.

He still thinks he won the Immunity Challenge.

He definitely didn't expect to go to Tribal Council.

And, in his mind, he doesn't need to go before The Jury.

Funny things happen when you have to go to work in a black robe.

Hey,did I just Outwit?

Nytol!:)

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flightplan, now who are you

to judge?

Ha, gotcha.

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how long does it take Joe Saia to ask the question

This is insane. Shouldn't it take a 10 minute conversation (under oath) to determine if there was an inappropriate relationship here? How hard can this be? And I don't get all the time they're spending on the cases that Carnwell had before Judge English. What about all the cases that settled before ever getting in front of English because they knew Carnwell was on the other side and she had the inside track with the Judge? This is such a farse. The more Ballard and Saia try to defend how they're handling this the more ridiculous they look.

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All I have to say is

Both are nothing but PIGS

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But Do Ya Think

Kimmy kept Pappy happy?

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