Religion Briefs 05/08/13

FPC Spring Fling is May 11 downtown
Fayette Presbyterian Church in Fayetteville will host its second “Annual Spring Fling” on Saturday, May 11, from 11 a.m. - 5 p.m.  at the downtown Fayetteville Square gazebo and fountain area (in front of the government complex). It is open to the public. A musical band, booths for games, free rides and popcorn, information and food and beverages will be available. A door prize drawing will be held every hour (ticket donation $1). Those attending are requested to bring a non-perishable item for donation to the Fayette Samaritans and will receive one drawing ticket “free.”

Women’s event planned at Shekinah
Shekinah Glory Fellowship Center, 383 Fayette Place, Fayetteville, will host GOD’S J.E.W.E.L.S. Women’s Empowerment Session on Saturday, May 18 at 10 a.m. All ladies ages 16 and up are invited to attend. GOD’S J.E.W.E.L.S. (Joyful Excited Women Empowering Ladies Successfully) is an outreach ministry of Shekinah Glory Fellowship Center. For more information, call 770- 227-7788 or contact@shekinahgloryfc.com.

Jazz Festival planned at The Summit
The Summit Church will hold its Annual Jazz Festival Saturday, May 18 from 4 to 8 p.m. Members of the community are invited to come out and bring their lawn chairs and sit and relax and enjoy the music of the Great Jazz Era from several musical groups. Barbecue will be served. The event is free to the public.  The Summit Church is at 1373 Ga. Hwy. 92 South, Fayetteville. For more information, call  770-460-3335, email info@thesummitpc.net or visit www.thesummitpc.net.

Divorce Care meets at PTCUMC
Divorce Care, for those going through or who recently experienced a divorce, will meet from 6:30 - 8:30 p.m. every Wednesday evening at the Robinson  Road Campus of Peachtree City United Methodist Church in Room 300. The sessions are open to everyone and one may join at anytime during the 14 weeks the classes are in session. For information, contact Susan McCormick, 404-405-5343,  or Kevin McCormick 770-891-1177.

Prayer group meets at Summit
A community prayer group meets at The Summit Family Resource Center, 1373 Ga. Highway 92 S. Fayetteville, from 9:30-10:15 a.m. on Thursday mornings.  This is an inter-denominational event. Everyone is invited. Call 770-460-3335 for more information.

PTCUMC offers GriefShare
 GriefShare sessions at Peachtree City United Methodist Church are open to anyone in the community grieving the loss of a friend or loved one,  and/or those who who need to connect with others going through the same journey. The sessions are on Thursdays from 6:30 - 8 p.m. at the Robinson Road Campus in Room 308. For information, contact Wanda Andereck, 770-716-8306.

mudcat
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That letter from Tom Evans is almost 2 years ago

And it only talks about hiring ministers. In the past, individual churches had to hire only ministers who believe marriage was between a man and a woman. Now they can hire anyone regardless of their position on what constitutes a marriage. In all cases, the individual Church can hire whoever they want.

Seems to me that the Prebytery of Atlanta just removed a potential discrimination in hiring obstacle and left it up to each Church who they could hire. But that was 2 years ago. Why all the hoopla now?

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I think it's the other way around

My mom attends that church. My understanding is this: At the 219th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA), a proposed amendment (10-A) to the Book of Order was approved. The Presbytery of Greater Atlanta, which is the governing body over the PTC church (and owns the building) recently voted to replace the wording in their constitution with the new wording in order to be in alignment with the national organization.

The new language removes the explicit prohibition of practicing gays and lesbians from being ordained. You can read the old wording and the new wording, and the school of thought behind it, on the ATLPCUSA's website here: http://www.atlpcusa.org/digital_faith/news/2250077

The mass exodus of people from the church were the ones who did not wish the church to abide by the new language. My understanding is that the numbers were WELL over half. In fact I've been told that there are very few left, although I've not confirmed that firsthand.

Hope this helps.

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So its Gay Flight?

If this is caused by the Presbytery of Atlanta changing its philosophy, you would think that 1. It would be news - after all gay people love to publicize stuff about their deviant lifestyle and 2. Other churches around Atlanta would be going through the same thing and that would be news. Could it be that we are so conservative in Fayette County that we are the only ones objecting to that change? Even if that is so, what about the other Presbyterian Churches in Fayette County? And even that should be a story for the liberal media - "Neanderthals in Fayette County flee from Gays". On the other hand, it is free choice and the government wasn't involved, so that's a good thing.

Hoards of people leaving because they object to the Church being inclusive? Doesn't sound Christian to me. I am so glad to have been raised a Catholic. No question on what I am supposed to believe and when I sin I go to confession and get a pass.

And yes mercyme, it does help. Not sure why no one directly involved lacks the strength of character to come forward and defend their decision to either leave or stay.

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Is this your church?????

if not, it is none of your business, if so, you are pot stirring. In either case, you are an ASS.

Bob

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So, what's going on with the Presbyterian Church?-updated

Seems as if 400 people left and formed a new Evangelical Presbyterian Church at the old Methodist Church. That's a lot of people - almost half the total members I think. What in the world caused this? I remember another split about 20 years ago and was never clear on the reason for that either. Nothing can be discovered from either website and there is only one article in Layman Magazine that even mentions it, but that is very vague as well.

Seems the pastor retired then resurfaced with the new group which tells me it has something to do with the overall Presbyterian philosophy or policy being at odds with the beliefs of one group or the other.

Timing is right after a couple of states vote in gay marriage, but Georgia wasn't one of them and I don't think people around here care all that much about the issue - at least not enough to split from their church.

Anybody know?

Update 8PM - Got 2 hateful phone messages referring to my homophobia and another that said it was actually 900 members who left the Presbyterian Church. Wow! That's something. What is going on?

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Morgan & Hateful Phone Msgs

So how would they know your phone nr ?

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Maybe because I put it in my e-mails asking for info

Noteworthy is that no official or Session member of either church have responded to the e-mails - only anonymous.
Looking like the 900 split-aways want to be tolerant and accepting of gay marriage and the old fogeys left behind at the old church are adamantly opposed. Or maybe it is the other way around. That's just a guess by reading and listening between the lines because this thing is being treated as a bigger secret that Benghazi. Of course this will all come out as well like everything always does, but why the intrigue? I guess one side or the other is embarrassed by its stance on what to them is an uncomfortable issue. WWJD? Probably be both tolerant and honest.