Chick-fil-A plan for 54W tabled by PTC planners

Concerns about potential problems with traffic circulation led the Peachtree City Planning Commission to table consideration of a conceptual site plan for a new Chick-fil-A restaurant on Ga. Highway 54 West.

The site design is complicated by the restaurant’s location next to the already-approved RaceTrac gas station in the newly-named Overlook retail center, which is on the south side of the highway adjacent to Planterra Way.

When a company representative appeared before the commission Monday night, several commissioners noted that it appeared Chick-fil-A had not taken into account any of the suggestions the commission provided at a previous workshop meeting.

One of the main concerns was the lack of a second lane going around the restaurant alongside the drive-through lane. A company representative noted that was done on purpose: to prevent pedestrian conflict near the drive-through window. Chick-fil-A could perhaps change the orientation of its store by 90 degrees to accommodate a second lane around the drive through, commissioners noted.

Another concern from the commission was about where delivery trucks would park on the site. It was suggested that the double drive-through entry and the dumpster area could be relocated to create a delivery area at the rear of the site.

As for some of the other issues that were unaddressed, it was noted that the site would be reduced in grade about 25 feet and thus there won’t be a chance to keep most of the vegetation on the parcel. Chick-fil-A does plan to add more landscaping to compensate and meet the city’s tree replacement requirements.

The planning commission also had hoped Chick-fil-A could provide a pedestrian walkway link to the adjacent RaceTrac, but the restaurant does not have the necessary access agreement with the convenience store, a Chick-fil-A representative said.

Ultimately, the commission was disappointed that more of its suggestions weren’t taken into consideration on the plan.

“I don’t have the impression that any one of our concerns were adequately addressed,” said Planning Commissioner Aaron Daily.

Commission Chairman Frank Destadio noted that a number of other corporations have given design concessions to the city, perhaps most recently and prominently for the new Walgreens pharmacy at the intersection of Hwy. 54 and Peachtree Parkway.

“There’s no doubt that Chick-fil-A is a great company. I’d just like to see a little more concessions to Peachtree City,” Destadio said.

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Just remember PTC...

... you raised the Stormwater TAX 137% and yet you still squabble over a facade front of a business that actually WANTS to be in PTC..

Business = TAX REVENUE

Maybe you should rethink how you guys view your relationship with business...Just saying.

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S. Lindsey: Council has no leader

Your right. But of course no one on council will say anything because the planning commission is a group of volunteers who aren't concerned about the businessman's livelihood.

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Oh I understand...

... I just don't and never have understood the mindset of people that complain about taxes or lack of City services then scream about traffic or crime whenever a business actually WANTS to move into a City.

These anti-development people are always the ones that scream first when their property taxes goes up or City Services are cut.

Everyone should remember in this economy businesses don't have to be there... Many are considering closing their doors...and with them goes the tax revenues... How is that replaced?

By raising the Stormwater tax 137%...Just saying.

Next year how much do you think it's going to go up..?

Other business looking to resettle in other areas will look at the problems getting permits to build and will simply, as one suggested here, go to Sharpsburg or Fayetteville and with them goes their tax revenues.

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do not need more traffic

the last thing we need in PTC is another chick fil a and to go with it, more traffic. that area is bad enough as it is. push them down further to the movie theatre in sharpsburg they will do fine there.

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Planning Commission

until one has dealt with these planners and had first hand experience with these "little kingdoms" own you will never know the joys of contracting in cities. As long as the building codes and fire codes are met then the planners need to butt out of the process and let business proceed.

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Cities certainly have a right to have standards of their own..

I think the Planning Commission does a good job, it's the Council that concerns me.

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You aint kidding houston2882

Most people don't understand. I respect that the commission means well as we do want to keep up with our standards. However nowhere in the article did it state that the plans did not meet the standards. It just said that the there were concerns and their suggestions were not taken into consideration.

1. The planning commission hoped Chick-fil-A could provide a pedestrian walkway link to the adjacent RaceTrac -

Wonderful idea for CFA business plan. Buy chicken from us and go across the parking lot to save 10 cents on a soda.

2. Chick-fil-A could perhaps change the orientation of its store by 90 degrees to accommodate a second lane around the drive through, commissioners noted. -

Perfect, lets change the orientation so the frontage is on the side. Great for police to observe the counter from the roadway.

3. Commissioners noted that it appeared Chick-fil-A had not taken into account any of the suggestions the commission provided -

How dare anyone not listen to us. We know so much more than you.

4. Other corporations have given design concessions to the city -

So now we have the commission mafia.

5. There’s no doubt that Chick-fil-A is a great company. I’d just like to see a little more concessions to Peachtree City -

CFA is a successful business. They can afford to do whatever we want.

Your right houston, as long as the plans meet the building and fire codes and also meet the aesthetic and sign ordinances, they should be able to do what is best for their business.

Mr. Mayor, do you see how poorly this makes the city look. CFA has been a wonderful addition to the city for many years. Is this how we treat all new business prospects?

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Hold their feet to the fire

IMHO

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I heard through the grapevine

That if this restaurant opens, the location on 54 closes. This is far from ideal- swapping a soon to be empty store for a botched development plan. I can see that 54 location remaining empty for a good long time.

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I sort of doubt this

One that it would close, anf two it would sit empty long. That center does very well.

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Chick fil A

is way too classy an organization to allow the suggestions/concerns of the Planning Comm. to go unaddressed. This makes no sense. On the city web site, Greyden Engineering out of Roswell is the rep. for Chick fil A.

I'd like to know who at Chick fil A made these decisions to ignore our Planners and have them address this directly if they haven't already. If this did not come directly from Chick fil A, then I suggest the company find a new rep. Thanks to the planners for tabling this.

"Pedestrian conflict near the drive thru window?" In PTC with 10,000 golf carts??? Whoever came up with that absurd comment should be slapped up side the head with a chicken strip.

Udder nonsense. Make mor changes, oh chicken restauranteurs.

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MLC - We know you like your chicken, but the city

It sounds like there is a breakdown in communication.

I understand and fully support our city's building codes and aesthetic requirements. But as a businessman, I have a problem with a planning commission that holds a business hostage requiring concessions. Just because the planning commission would like to see something does not make it right. Why would Chick-fil-a want to build a pedestrian path to the convenience store? So their patrons can save 10 cents by going next door to buy a soda?

Chick-fil-a is no mom and pop company building its first store. They have professionals on staff and hire professional designers that take into account, parking, pedestrian safety, deliveries and pickups. To expect that they provide more concessions because they may be able to afford it is not right.

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Unlike you, I won't be running across 54 to get my fil of this place if it is built.

Our planners can and should request what they feel is a good fit for our city. Apparently they feel this is not good enough. Are you inferring that our planners are not professionals?

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I prefer the stores at the shopping center at 54/parkway and 74/near stars mill. I doubt I frequent this one much.

I have no doubt our planners are looking out for the city. Perhaps the article used some incorrect wording.

1. The commission was disappointed that more of its suggestions weren't taken into consideration.

Does this mean the plans did not meet the building and code requirements or did it just not meet with the commissions additional suggestions? A suggestion does not necessarily mean what they drew did not meet codes.

2. I don’t have the impression that any one of our concerns were adequately addressed

I doubt anyone wanted to waste time. This sounds like failure to communicate.

3. A number of other corporations have given design concessions to the city, perhaps most recently and prominently for the new Walgreens pharmacy at the intersection of Hwy. 54 and Peachtree Parkway.

I am all for having the buildings fit within our design criteria. And in business you have to be able to give and take. But when push comes to shove, if the facility meets all of the requirements, at some point the city has to live with it and can't keep putting an hand out for more. You can't force someone to do something above and beyond the requirements just because you think it would be better. That could result in a lawsuit. Just because the company is successful, it doesn't give anyone the right to ask for more concessions.

Just sayin

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Push comes to shove?

Where did that come from? These planners have every right to make their requests. If they choose to table this item, do it and let it be known to the applicant. There is no pushing or shoving. How can there be a failure to communicate when it's all spelled out on paper, item by item? And since there is only one here who continually brings up lawsuits by applicants who want to have the privilege of opening a business here, may I suggest presenting your thoughts without the threat of legal action being part of any discussion. This is a process and it is mooooving forward. I applaud our staff and commission members for presenting alternatives that are more suited to this city than what was offered. I encourage mor of the same, also.

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MLC- Question for you

Are you a member of the ptc planning commission?

I am all for making ptc pretty and the any new buildings needs to meet the design criteria and codes set up by the city. However the only thing the article stated was that the design did not seem to take into consideration any of the commissions suggestions. Suggestion is the psychological process by which one person guides the thoughts, feelings, or behaviour of another. The article did not state that anything was actually wrong.

The commission can suggest anything it wants. Commission can make the process difficult for the owner. If the owner wants to negotiate to appease the city, that is their prerogative. They can walk away, or they can file suit if they feel they meet all of the written code requirements.

Perhaps the article is misleading. But no where did the article state that there were code issues were ignored. Only that commissions feelings were hurt because their suggestions weren't addressed.

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My, my, my

someone's a little touchy. I can only wonder why. Noooo, I'm not. And yooo? How about you call Cal and let him know of your displeasure at how his staff reports the news here? I mean, you obviously know so much more than The Citizen and others who blog here, right? I think you will feel better, too.

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Nope, just realistic

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the article. It makes the commission seem like a bunch of bratty little school girls annoyed because they aren't getting the attention they desire.

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Oh, now there's

nothing wrong with the article? I guess you didn't say the article was misleading. You didn't say the article used some incorrect wording. You didn't say it makes the commission seem like a bunch of etc.....

No, there's nothing wrong with the article. Nor is there anything wrong with how the planners are doing their job. Your insults to the planners and to The Citizen speak volumes about your comprehension, though. Then again, I guess paid ads for your business get you that leeway.

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