Tea Party events coming April 15 to PTC and Newnan

This time last year a small handful of people in Fayette and Coweta counties decided to mirror similar efforts planned across America by protesting their dissatisfaction with the federal government at Tea Party rallies on April 15. Hundreds attended the local rallies.

Now with local mailing lists totaling a few thousand, the South Atlanta Tea Party Patriots, the Coweta Tea Party and the Fayette/Coweta 9.12 Patriots will be holding events again this year on April 15 in Peachtree City and Newnan.

The Peachtree City event will be held from 12-1:30 p.m. at Drake Field adjacent to Peachtree City Hall and Lake Peachtree. The event will feature radio talk show host Herman Cain.

The 2010 Tax Day Rally in Newnan will be held at Greenville Park from 12-1:30 p.m. The rally will kick off with live music followed by speaker Virginia Galloway, state Director for Americans for Prosperity, and comments from State Representative Billy Horne, State Senator Mitch Seabaugh and local businessman Rob Brass. Attendees are encouraged to bring tasteful protest signs and flags.

Fayette County’s South Atlanta Tea Party is the new name for the Southern Crescent Tea Party Patriots. The non-profit South Atlanta Tea Party is a grassroots non-partisan group concerned with the direction the country is headed. For more information on the organization and transportation to the rally later April 15 in Atlanta visit www.southatlantateaparty.org

The Coweta Tea Party is a non-partisan, non-profit social welfare organization dedicated to furthering the common good and general welfare of the people of the United States. CTP furthers this goal by educating the public and promoting the principles of fiscal responsibility, constitutionally limited government and free markets. CTP has not endorsed candidates for public office. Visit www.cowetateaparty.org for information on the organization and the Atlanta rally April 15.

The Fayette-Coweta 9.12 Patriots is a grassroots non-partisan organization of fiscally and socially conservative citizens dedicated to returning America to its founding constitutional principles. For more information visit www.fc912patriots.com.

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Change we can believe in!
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Obama's mantra is "CHANGE"...where is it. Same ole washington politics nothing has really "changed".

Where is it?

It might have slipped by you, but Congress just passed, and President Obama just signed, the most meaningful reform of health care in the past 30 years.

That's Change we can believe in!

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Change

Meaningful change comes slowly - but it comes! Don't forget a renewed respect among foreign powers; a military program that is supported/led by the generals on the ground rather than a civilian (Rumsfeld) in DC; a slow but steady economical growth; etc., etc., etc. The energy of this president is astounding. With all that is demanded of his time, he found time in his schedule to visit our sons and daughters in the battlefields. He has surrounded himself with intelligent persons who have the safety and security of the American people at heart. We don't have the ex-president of a horse organization in charge of Homeland Security. We have leadership in Washington that cares about the welfare of all humanity - and not an ideology that states 'if you're not with us - you're against us'. I think history will be kinder to Bush the son than some believe. Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rove destroyed a party that was so artfully developed by Reagan. Cyclist shared a very bleak picture of our 'budget'. If this was a household budget, we would be in deep trouble. . . .and we would look for ways to cut/save/eliminate. It will be necessary to sacrifice 'services'. What are the American people willing to sacrifice is the question. Many are growing their own vegetables for weekly consumption, many in the urban areas are using bicycles, many are purchasing smaller cars, etc. If you feel the 'crunch' hasn't hit your personal budget yet - just wait. Credit is still difficult to get. We're going to have to plan our purchases carefully. As we change our spending habits, so will the local, state, and federal governments (hopefully). I have watched the Glen Beck shows dedicated to denigrating this administration; I have read Joe Kawfi’s contribution to this blog – and the contributions of others who are repeating the same thing. Free speech is alive and well. The country is ‘hearing’ both sides/opinions. We may have new representatives in Congress – but Obama will have his two terms.

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DM all change is not good..

Meaningful change comes slowly - but it comes! Don't forget a renewed respect among foreign powers;
What respect DM.. He disrespect Israel’s Prime Minister, he gives as a gift of State to England a bunch of DVDs..
“In several different countries during the G20 eight day tour overseas Obama sustained his negative comments throughout. Never has a U.S. president on his first trip abroad be so disrespectful to his country or its history.” There is no respect for America. Now if you think they respect Obama for his apology tours then you don’t know the World as well as you think you do..

“a military program that is supported/led by the generals on the ground rather than a civilian (Rumsfeld) in DC; a slow but steady economical growth; etc., etc., etc. The energy of this president is astounding. With all that is demanded of his time, he found time in his schedule to visit our sons and daughters in the battlefields. He has surrounded himself with intelligent persons who have the safety and security of the American people at heart”
Well as for that first statement America and “HIS” generals had to FORCE him to act on Afghanistan and all Military personnel SUPPORTS the COMANDER IN CHIEF NO MATTER WHO IS IN CHARGE.. .

April 4, 2009 - President Obama made a surprise visit to Baghdad, Iraq at the tail end of his first overseas trip as president. Surprise visits became the norm under Bush. With America involved in two wars the President could not be guaranteed certain security if his visits to the troops were announced ahead of time. Some believe Baghdad was the wrong choice for Obama. Iraq is Bush's war. Remember Obama mainly criticized the war while on the campaign trail and campaigned to begin drawing down U.S. troops as soon as he became President. No surprise there DM all Presidents do it.. Obama is no Superman.
As far as who he surrounds himself with.. REALLY.. Anita Dunn who turns to Mao as a source of inspiration.. Ron Bloom who believes the Free Market is a joke and “like Mao believes real power comes from the barrel of a gun”.. Andy Stern who believes “Workers of the World Unite” Communism is good for America? Van Jones an Environmental Radical and Self-Avowed Communist.. Jim Wallis Obama’s NEW spiritual advisor another self-Avowed Marxist and Environmental Radical.. Who believes in Social Justice and the REDISTRIBUTION OF ALL WEALTH.. yep some mighty fine people he got surrounding himself that care so much about America.

We don't have the ex-president of a horse organization in charge of Homeland Security.
No we only have one that puts out reports that if you are a VETERAN and support Life you are probably a TERRORIST..

We have leadership in Washington that cares about the welfare of all humanity - and not an ideology that states 'if you're not with us - you're against us'.

Oh yes.. true leadership and bi partisanship.. “President Obama listened to Republican gripes about his stimulus package during a meeting with congressional leaders Friday morning - but he also left no doubt about who's in charge of these negotiations. "I won," Obama noted matter-of-factly, according to sources familiar with the conversation.”

If this was a household budget, we would be in deep trouble. . . .and we would look for ways to cut/save/eliminate.

Then why DM are you not on the bandwagon with the rest of us and screaming about OBAMA’S DEBT.. Why do you only mention those dastardly Republicans and their spending.. your hypocrisy knows no bounds.. Obama triples the debt and you speak of sacrifices by the American people

The country is ‘hearing’ both sides/opinions. We may have new representatives in Congress – but Obama will have his two terms.
Really.. then why are people like you trying to shout down the Teaparty with FALSE claims of RASCISM and Terrorism DM? That old tired tactic of shutting down discussion by shouting racist is alive and well. and btw.. don’t count Obama having 2 terms.. After November he will be close to a lame duck President.. the first ever this soon..

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A business that experiences a slump re-evaluates, plans, and then spends/cuts to improve the business. To stop all spending is to close down the business. Not a very difficult 'truth' to comprehend. We are not going to shut down our country. As far as 'racism'- reread my comments. For all of the beauty of our country and its history - it is a racist country. We have improved immensely - and I am extremely proud of our progress in this area. I am in the process of reading your suggested references - Newsweek's We Are All Socialists Now and The Nation's 2006 article The Left Needs More Socialism. When was the last time you read these particular articles? What is the 'truth' that you want me to garner from the reading?

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I have to assume you are responding to both post #2 & #4..

No one is advocating a complete shut down of spending where you get that is unknown, however every businessman knows one simple fact.. Revenue (Sales) go down then so must spending. That's a hard fact.

Your comment "For all of the beauty of our country and its history - it is a racist country." amazes me and I whole heartedly REJECT that idea. That statement paints EVERY citizen as a racist from BIRTH and that is simply not factual.

Are there racist? YES

Are there people afraid of the number 13? YES

Does that mean all Americans are Triskaidekaphobians? NO

So your blanket statement that America is a RACIST country is uninformed and biased at best at worst reflective.

As to the articles.. Read them both when they came out that's why I had the link to them.. Both read again before linked to you.. Why?

btw.. No truth to be discovered just information.. Subjective proof of a link from Liberals to Progressives to Socialism.

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S. Lindsey - Racism

I agree - the statement implying that America is a racist country and therefore all Americans are racist is beyond the pale and has absolutely no merit. It is statements such as that one that prove that wisdom doesn't necessarily come with age.

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No truth to be discovered just information.

Accepted as information. Thanks.

America was founded on principled words/ideas - and in some colonies, racist practices. The United States is admired as a country where persons don't belong to a class/caste (by-law today) - and can achieve greatness/success based on their hard work. The United States is also known for its history of the racist practice of 'slavery' and 'Jim Crow' - an Apartheid system based on the color of ones skin. I respect your whole-heartedness in denying that our country is 'racist' - but I ask you to please be realistic. Stating that the United States is racist certainly does not mean that all of the citizens of this great country are racists - but come on Lindsey - we still have racist practices in this country. You were among those who decried 'reverse racism' - which did/does exist – as does racism. Why deny the existence of racism? Instead, we should be proud that we no longer allow this to be an accepted practice.

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DM - Points

1) As long as there are people, we will have racism.

2) Human's are corrupt by nature therefore institutions created by humans will be corrupt.

3) We have a black President (not elected solely by blacks)

4) Your vision of a "perfect" US will never exist and you can't legislate it.

5) I think you need to travel more outside the United States, there you will find truth.

6) To point out a distinction based on skin color is racism.

In the eyes of God and law you are equal to all others. In society it is only your skill and abilities that set you apart from others. Your skills and abilities should reward your life through your labor. To have someone take the fruit of your labor by force and give it to someone else is robbery. Progressives are thieves using law as their gun to steal the fruits of our labor. The Congress and the President are Progressives. To the extent you support their position you empower them to steal.

Please get off the race issue, it doesn’t advance your position and exposes your naïve vision of the world around you.

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1) As long as there are people, we will have racism.

2) Human's are corrupt by nature therefore institutions created by humans will be corrupt.

3) We have a black President (not elected solely by blacks)

4) Your vision of a "perfect" US will never exist and you can't legislate it.

5) I think you need to travel more outside the United States, there you will find truth.

6) To point out a distinction based on skin color is racism.

In the eyes of God and law you are equal to all others. In society it is only your skill and abilities that set you apart from others. Your skills and abilities should reward your life through your labor. To have someone take the fruit of your labor by force and give it to someone else is robbery. Progressives are thieves using law as their gun to steal the fruits of our labor. The Congress and the President are Progressives. To the extent you support their position you empower them to steal.
Please get off the race issue, it doesn’t advance your position and exposes your naïve vision of the world around you.

As a student in college, I envisioned a country where I could travel freely in the US regardless of the color of my skin. There was action and legislation that made that a reality for me today. I no longer have to sit in the back of the bus; there is not a special car for me when I enter the south; - and I'm extremely proud of that reality that so many fought for (black and white) and achieved
I have traveled extensively around the world - and I'm received as an American- not an African-American. I am designated as 'black' or African-American in the United States. SOME humans are corrupt by nature. We put them in jail. You have a very narrow vision of your fellow man. That is a shame. Note: I am on the boards to discuss 'race' - have been since the Clinton administration - and contrary to your belief, the United States has come a long way regarding this issue - but it is still an issue. . . an issue where great progress is still being made daily in this country where meaningful change happens. . . using the strategies of non-violence.

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DM - OK

That's fine, but please re-read my post. I think you are taking "corruption" the wrong way. Maybe, I should say imperfect? You can't put people in jail for being "imperfect", right? I think this how the whole race thing gets started. Corruption as you take it requires us to act on our laws and put people in jail. Anyway, my mistake at wording.

Human's are corrupt and imperfect and there is no changing this. In my youth I was very much involved in non-violent change so I understand what you are saying. We have come a long way, but it will never be perfect. You can't change people's hearts and nature.

As far as I am concerned you are a human being, I don't care if you are a woman or a black. You are equal in the eyes of God and law, the more you focus on your differences the more different you will be. This is counter to our goal, wouldn't you agree?

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PTC OBSERVER - continued dialogue
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Humans are corrupt and imperfect and there is no changing this. In my youth I was very much involved in non-violent change so I understand what you are saying. We have come a long way, but it will never be perfect. You can't change people's hearts and nature.
As far as I am concerned you are a human being, I don't care if you are a woman or a black. You are equal in the eyes of God and law, the more you focus on your differences the more different you will be. This is counter to our goal, wouldn't you agree?

I think we are more in agreement than disagreement. I was always taught to strive for perfection - the result will be more satisfying than striving for mediocrity. I've witnessed the change in people's hearts, including my own - so I can't agree with you regarding that issue. We both have the same spiritual understanding of who we are - but there would have been no change in law or hearts if my forefathers and I accepted past practices. Being different? - I rejoice in the differences!! World citizens and citizens here in the United States celebrate ‘difference’. You will see that people’s perceptions are often dependent on their life experience - and all people regardless of skin color, gender, religion, etc. do not have the same life experience. It does not hinder understanding when one is exposed to the understanding of another who has a different perception of the same view. . .because of their 'difference'.

I have developed a greater understanding of views that are opposite from mine by reading some of the posts on this blog. Many here have had a very different life experience - which has developed their particular opinion of racism, etc. Just maybe by sharing my experiences and opinions, some will have a better understanding of those who view 'racism' differently than their own view. I focus on the 'who' rather than the 'what'. In my own country, I am still viewed as a black woman - with ancestry from Africa. That is 'what' I am. When I interact with people through words and actions - people find out 'who' I am. The ‘what’ has shaped the world’s reaction/interaction to me – until time is taken to get to know the ‘who’. There are differences in the ‘what’ – that may hinder the attempts to get to know the ‘who’. I feel you are more interested in the ‘who’ – and that gives me hope. The reality is if you saw me on the street 30/40 years ago, you may have reacted to the ‘what’. Today in Fayetteville – I feel that people take the time to get to know the ‘who’ – and I think that is happening all over our country. However, there are those who are still concerned with the ‘what’. So I continue to post, understand, and hope.

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On this DM we will disagree

I would like to see your source or (s) of America;s foundation of Racism.

But I know it a touchy subject so if you don't produce them I understand. You don't question a persons Religion.

I will just disagree that America was FOUNDED on RACISM.. Personally I think it was founded on FREEDOM, but that's just me..

Yes DM Racism exist.. You hav eWhites that hate Blacks.. Blacks that hate the Asians.. Asian that hate the Mexicans.. Mexicans that hate well all of us.. It is the way of the WORLD.. Slavery still exist today.. I mean the real kind not the Mental or Economic kind.

http://www.anti-slaverysociety.addr.com/toc.htm

It still occurs all over the World.. Personally I would rather focus our attention there then some ill perceived shadows of it here..

That's way the Race Baiter's have pushed too hard and too far. Racism is yelled at everything.. It's not all racism it might be their just not qualified..

Racism is screamed to shut people up if they are saying things that others do not want to hear..

Look at the ones that yelled Racist if you disagreed with Obama..

""I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African American," Carter said. The Republican party today issued a denial, saying Carter was "flat-out wrong" and that opposition was not because of Obama's skin colour but his policies"Jimmy Carter

It could not be you had a real philosophical difference.. no it was RACISM.

Well anyway this is a debate that will NEVER be settled. The issue must stay alive. Certain peoples livelihood depends on it..

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It still occurs all over the World.. Personally I would rather focus our attention there then some ill perceived shadows of it here.

Ill perceived shadows????? Certainly not the 'slavery' of years ago - but Lindsey you cannot be unaware of the Chinese/Korean slave trade that exists in this country? (This is not the place for this discussion) It is commonly noted that the 'new' slave in the United States is the Hispanic - except he is paid (illegally). If these were ill-conceived shadows - why the cry of 'reverse racism'?

I will just disagree that America was FOUNDED on RACISM.. Personally I think it was founded on FREEDOM, but that's just me.
When the Pilgrims landed - and the Indians and Pilgrims shared a meal - if the relationship had remained at that, I would agree with you. But I certainly don't have to tell you about the historical turn of events that ended that peaceful relationship. Oh - and when cotton, and rice, and tobacco became profitable for certain colonies, some sub-humans were imported to work those crops - as slaves. Some folk remained free, others took a walk, and others worked the fields without the luxury of freedom.

My religion has very little to do with the factual history of the United States. My religion focuses on my spiritual perception of life. . . and that perception is that we are all reflections of God. We all reflect love, spirit, soul, principle, life, truth, and Mind. I’m proud that Americans have taken the path of correcting past mistakes – and this country will continue to strive to live up to the words of freedom, liberty and justice for all.

OK - we disagree. Thanks for the information regarding perceptions of socialism. Nite! :-)

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DM your history is more than a little biased

I am just going to say this there were many if not most states that did not have SLAVES. They created an economy w/o them.. So again I will say the Foundation was laid w/o racism..

You don't have to be an Indian to experience it. Now if you say the Country was founded on CONFLICT between people of differing backgrounds.. I would agree. But also there was much agreement and co-operation so unless you have a sourced info as to percentages and State Populations that owned slaves.. then I will still have to disagree.

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History is history. We have different views - coming from different perspectives. Slavery = conflict between people of differing backgrounds; removing an entire group of people from one part of the country to another = conflict; segregating people based on the color of their skin (this didn't happen only in the south) = conflict. OK, if you say so.
My great, great grandfather was segregated in Philadelphia in the church because of the color of his skin. RACISM in my view. I grant you your view. . but history is history.

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Some people cry "racism" at every turn because it is the only crutch that they have left. They will always use it when they know that they have lost the argument.

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Lindsey: "shout down the teas???"

Have you not noticed who is "shouting?"

Respect overseas! Never have we been hated more than before 2009!
As to listening to Top Military: Wanted 500,000 troops---got 100,000--lost.
Who surrounds Presidents? You didn't mention one cabinet head! Nor Biden, nor Admiral Mullin, nor Bob Gates--a republican, etc. I don't know those other dudes! Want to know some Bush friends, Enron, Cheney, Paulson, I'll stop....

The Teas will be the death of the GOP! Didn't Palin teach you anything?

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Don't know who those other "dudes" are..Bonkers?

Then educate yourself some Bonkie..

"Respect overseas! Never have we been hated more than before 2009!
As to listening to Top Military: Wanted 500,000 troops---got 100,000--lost."

I think you need to take that one up with Davids Mom.. on this we agree.

Start with these Bonkers and get back to me..

Question what is their link to Obama?

William (Bill) Ayers
Rev. Jeremiah Wright

ACORN
Van Jones–
John Holdren
Mark Lloyd
Nancy-Ann DeParle
Cass Sunstein,
Carol Browner
Ezekiel Emmanuel
Apollo Alliance
Movement for a Democratic Society

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To my knowledge none of these names you list "surround" the President! They aren't on the payroll nor are they volunteers.
Aren't these mostly city organizers of minorities? What is wrong with that?
The KKK outfits, and The Heritage Foundation are organizers for majorities. So are the current conservatives!

Mr. Wright is a preacher I remember also from Chicago. He ran a church similar to Palin's in Alaska. The President's family attended there. Most black churches are highly emotional in their services. Also, some fundamentalist churches. I am speaking of shouting, screaming, wriggling on the floor, clapping constantly, amening from the corners constantly, false healing of cancer, etc., collecting money and holding political meetings in the church, and eating a lot there. Most children get their naps there about 3:00 PM. The bathrooms need an "in between" cleaning.

Not for me but for some it is.

What does DM agree with you about?

Do you want to know some more friends of Bush, Cheney, Barbour, Terminator, The Mormon fellow from Mass., Palin's almost son-in-law, Newt, Turd Blossum, Commandant of Abu-Ghraib, Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, The CEO and President of Enron (dead and prisoner), all major bank CEOs, Most of Wall Street major traders, all of Madison Avenue big boys, and all who were responsible for decisions on our 10 year wars and deaths and wounded.

Now which group did the most harm to us at least 1000 fold?

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Uhhh.. Bonkie...I guess comprehension decreases as we get older

Let's play Jeopardy..

I'll take Domestic Terrorist for $100.. Alex

He founded a Domestic Terrorist Organization and a soon to be elected Barack Obama started his political career at his house..He also served with Obama on the Woods Foundation. He founded the Weather Underground that used BOMBS as a vehicle to Social Justice. Later Obama said he does not know him..and he is just some guy that lives in MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

Answer: Who is Obama's Associate and a Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers.

I'll take Radical Preachers for $200 Alex..

Obama sat in his pews for 20 years. This pastor preaches a philosophy of Black Theology. A Racist bigoted version of America where the drug problem was brought to the black community by whites to "KILL" off the black community. He damed America and said about American on 9/11. "American's Chickens have come home to Roost".. Obama said he sat there for 20 years and "NEVER HEARD ANY OF THIS".

Answer: Who is Obama's Pastor Rev. Wright

I'll take Radical Organizations for $300 Alex

Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with this Group the largest radical group in America
On behalf of this GROUP Obama and a team of Chicago attorneys won a 1995 suit forcing the state of Illinois to implement the federal “motor-voter” bill.
This Groups Political Action Committee announced on Feb 21, 2008 that it has endorsed Sen. Barack Obama for President.
Obama announced that he had no association with this group however..

Answer: What is Acorn

I'll take Radical Communist Czars for $400 Alex

This person was brought into the Whitehouse to head up Green Jobs initiatives and Environmental concerns..
He is an admitted proud Communist, “rowdy black nationalist” and radical activist. He also worked on the board of a front environmental group established by one of the founders of the violent Weather Underground. Note: This is the same group that was also founded by Obama Friend and fellow radical Socialist Bill Ayers. He made statements like this:
"The white polluters and the white environmentalists are essentially steering poison into the people of color communities"

Answer: Who is Obama's Green Czar Van Jones

I'll take Radical Abortionist for $500 Alex

He has advocated forced abortions and “compulsory sterilization”. He has called for a “Planetary Regime” to control human population and its usage of earth resources. He has stated his belief that “to provide a high quality of life for all, there must be fewer people.” He supports forced abortion as a means of population control. He also feels it is acceptable to abort a child as old as 2 years . He states that a child is not really a person until they are aware of tomorrow.

Answer: Who is Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren

I'll take Radical Communications Directors for $600 Alex

He was hired by Obama to shut down conservative talk radio. Radio stations with successful conservative talk radio hosts will be forced, under the Obama FCC, to carry liberal programming (despite little-to-no listenership–does anyone remember the ill-fated leftist Air America?) or pay prohibitive fines. Lloyd also has strong ties to radical leftists and anti-Americans George Soros and John Podesta.
What he lays out is a battle plan to use the FCC to threaten stations' licenses with whom they do not agree with politically, and now he's at the FCC waiting to take their calls," Motley told FOXNews.com. "This is not about serving the local interest, it's about political opposition."
He has said:
"It should be clear by now that my focus here is not freedom of speech or the press.... This freedom is all too often an exaggeration.... At the very least, blind references to freedom of speech or the press serve as a distraction from the critical examination of other communications policies."

Answer: Who is Obama's FCC Diversity Czar Mark Lloyd

I'll take Radical Healthcare advocates for $700 Alex

She is pro-partial birth abortion. For those of you not familiar with the term, that means the child–not the “fetus”–is viable for birth and survival. After the body is outside of the womb (sometimes only the baby’s head), the “doctor” provides an intrauterine cranial decompression of the baby. A catheter is inserted into the baby’s skull and the contents of the brain are “sucked out”–thus, collapsing the child’s skull. Under Clinton, She also promoted abortion and the rationing of lifesaving medical treatment.

Answer: Who is Obama’s Health Czar-Nancy-Ann DeParle

I’ll take Radical Deconstructionist for $800 Alex

DOUBLE JEOPARDY

He is a Harvard Law professor who has been appointed to a shadowy post that will grant him powers that are merely mind-boggling, explicitly supports using the courts to impose a "chilling effect" on speech that might hurt someone's feelings.
He stated:
"We hardly need to imagine a world, however, in which people and institutions are being harmed by the rapid spread of damaging falsehoods via the Internet," he writes. "We live in that world. What might be done to reduce the harm?"

Answer: Who is Obama’s Regulatory Czar Cass Sunstein

I’ll take Radical Anthropogenic (Man Made) Global Warming people Alex..

She was part of Socialist International, a group for "global governance". She advocated a Global Government with its own Global Currency and to take control of the Global Courts to PROSECUTE climate skeptics and US Industries.

Answer: Who is Obama’s global warming "czar" Carol Browner

I’ll take Radical Medical Doctors for $900 Alex..

He is a proponent of the Complete Lives System, which puts values on lives based mostly by age. He believes that if you are over the age of 65 you should be cut off from Medical care.

Answer: Who is Obama’s Health care advisor Ezekiel Emmanuel..

I’ll take Radical Presidents for the Win Alex..

He has stated that he will “Fundamentally Transform America” and has associations with all of these people.

Answer: Who is Barack H. Obama

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. . .and 69% of the American voters saw beyond the negative rhetoric - and voted for him. We now have the beginning of affordable health care; the market is stabilizing; we have dates of when we will leave Iraq; the citizens of the world once again respect the US; we are FINALLY going after Bin Laden!! Congress may change - but Obama will get his second term.

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69% huh? You stand by that figure, and if so I'd love to see where you got it. Is this like the 70% of white people voting for Obama?

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Hutch - correction

Presidential election 2008 - Obama 53% McCain - 46%

Hmmmm. All the white people didn't vote for McCain. Americans voted for both and Obama won. 90+% of blacks voted for Obama - not because he was Black, but because the Republicans made it very obvious that they were using the 'southern' strategy to entice the Republican base. Let's move on.

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Moving On

You're right, I should have let your bogus statistic stand, like the last time (rolling eyes). My bad. I never said all the white people voted for McCain, but you did say that 70% of white people voted for Obama. You keep making up your stats and I'll keep pointing out where you are wrong.

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HUTCH

I'll be happy to return the favor. That will keep us both honest.

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Wow! Congratulations - you've never been wrong. There is a distinction between 'wrong' and dishonest. I will take you at your word that you've never been dishonest. OK?

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You were the one who brought up honesty, not me. You're right there is a distinction between wrong and dishonest. I told you, you were wrong, you implied I was dishonest. That's the difference between us. I said show me anywhere on here I've been dishonest, not wrong, but dishonest.

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DAVIDS MOM

Feel free to point out anywhere on here I've been dishonest. EVER!!!! I'd like to see it.

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and DM what is his approval rating NOW?

btw.. Didn't OBL just post a letter?

Do we have him yet..? but didn't you guys say you would have him in 6 months if elected?

It was you guys that placed the capture or death of OBL ahead of actually stabilizing the Area.. So you live by the sword you die by the sword..

BHO will never get a 2nd term.. Period.

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Gallup – 48% approve/45% disapprove

Rasmussen – 31% strongly approve/42% strongly disapprove

It is important to remember that the Rasmussen Reports job approval ratings are based upon a sample of likely voters. Some other firms base their approval ratings on samples of all adults. President Obama's numbers are always several points higher in a poll of adults rather than likely voters. The above statement is from the Rasmussen website

OBL - at least the American people know that we are actively seeking/working to bring him to death and/or to justice.

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DM you skewed your numbers AGAIN

Gallup is 48% DISAPPROVE and 45% APPROVE.. Once again you use whatever you can make up..

You are getting about as bad as Bonkers..

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WHO SKEWED: LINDSEY?
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Graph Reading for Dummies....

Basically, it is pretty straight forward for those not trying to visualize what isn't there.....

See, the darker line (in this case APPROVE) starts around 69% on the referenced graph and steadily declines to 45%. You know that by following to the END OF THE FREAKIN LINE and see where that leaves you. It is square between the 40 and 50, and they even give special help to those who can't figure it out by stating 45% (RIGHT AT THE END OF THE FREAKIN LINE).

Conversely, the lighter line (in this case DISAPPROVE) starts around 12% on the graph and moves steadily upward to 48%. Again, you know that by following to the END OF THE FREAKIN LINE and see where that leaves you. It is closer to the 50 than midpoint, and again they give special help to those incapable of deciphering graphs by stating 48% (AGAIN, RIGHT AT THE END OF THE FREAKIN LINE).

Another pointer, the end of the darker line (approve) is BELOW the end of the lighter line (disapprove). Now, how could his approval rate be higher than the disapproval rate IF THE END OF THE FREAKIN APPROVAL LINE IS BELOW THE END OF THE DISAPPROVAL LINE??? Probably the same way 69% of the voters cast their ballots for Obama in 2008.....

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DM see Hutch's answer. You are wrong

might do a little checking before you post it.. Just saying..

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Lindsey

Place your cursor over the bold letters in my statement to you - and see for yourself. You should check the Gallup poll yourself instead of trying to appear all-knowing.

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DM just... oh what the heck... FORGET IT

Your'e wrong.. period. I know it doesn't fit your agenda and you are blinded by your ideology..

But go forward blissfully ignorant of the World around you..

Once again you provided the link that proves I am right and you are wrong for that My humble THANKS.

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Lindsey - DM

A wise man told me recently not to waste my time......remember?

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PTC.. I know I know

It's like I always say.. It's like trying to teach a PIG to sing.. All you do is frustrate yourself and Pi$$ off the Pig and this pig is mightily POed..

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Dm

You better break out the glasses, or just break down and look at those lines a little closer, Lindsey is right. But on the other hand you were right when you said we can look up the facts for ourselves. 0 for 2 today mom, might better start fresh again tomorrow.

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Lindsey and Hutch Right or Wrong?

The Gallup Poll.

Click Here

The black (or dark green) line represents approval rating. The green line represents disapproval rating. Need glasses - or are you color blind?

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DM - we finally agree

President O is a great propagandist.

But his exit from politics will begin in November in the polling booth. ;-]

count on it.

Glen Beck is a poor spokeman for the conservatives, I totally agree with you. Too much looking under the bed for me.

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PTC/BECK

Agreement noted.

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However Keith Oberman and Ed Shultz are fine representatives

for the Liberals.. I just LOVE them.. Michael Moore is the gift that keeps on giving.. Love'em..

At least Beck is Right 99% of the time.. but what the heck thrills up the leg
Oberman is never wrong..

"Keith Olbermann: Played for a fool by the antivaccine movement"
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/02/keith_olbermann_played_for_a_f...

"When it comes to COLI, Keith Olbermann is either an idiot or a liar"
http://ifawebnews.com/2009/10/09/when-it-comes-to-coli-keith-olbermann-i...

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Lindsey - Beck

I don't watch Beck on a regular basis, but when I do have the occasion to watch he seems to be going just a bit too far in this conspiracy theories.

Fundamentally, he is a Libertarian and generally I agree with these folks.

I wouldn’t put Beck at 99% for this reason; he extrapolates too much on the “connections”. He needs to simply stick to history and the rational approach that most Libertarians take to politics and economics.

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Crispy - HC reform

The Congress has passed and Obama signed the Health Care Reform Act, this coupled with the failure to extend the Tax Cuts passed under the Republicans will be known as the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act of 2010. It will have the same impact as the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act of 1930. Hurting the very people it was meant to help. So much for great the minds of governement.

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SMOOT-HAWLEY TARIFF ACT
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DM - too late

if you would simply read some history you would find out that this Act was repealed when the country was plunged deeper into the Depression by over taxation.

If you don't read history (at least the history that is not taught in public school) you will be condemned to repeat mistakes.

Our current political situation is exactly that……a mistake.

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PTC

???? Cute. It's obvious you 'react' rather than 'read' what I post. But point noted.

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DM - couple of points

1) There was no link on your post, so your point was lost.
2) I would never go to a government link (US State Dept.) to prove a point about the positive outcome of a government action. I simply makes your point a hollow argument. Just study unbiased history there you will find the truth and not from the propagandist.

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PTC OB

There were two links.

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DM - send again

I didn't see them, is there somewhere other than the body of the post where they may be located?

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Place your cursor over the two BOLD sentences in the first PTC-OB.

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Oh yeah that's some real change there..

The takeover of 1/6 of our economy.. The forced takeover and Nationalization of 2 of our largest industries.. Spending totally out of control.. Bribes, Graft, Corruption back room deals.. yada.. yada.. yada..

Yep some kind of change there..

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Anything President Obama does that is not a tax reduction for hammer is not change he can believe in! Or enhances his rights over others.

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Bonkers

I'm gonna just ignore Bacon hes's obviosly educated beyond his intelligence! But you deserve a reply.

I have never asked that my rights be enhanced over anyones. The constitution gives every US citizen certain rights. The First Ammendment gives me the right to express to you MY opinion. And my opinion of you is that you are a bed wetting Liberal.

You, Lion and Bacon Keep drinking the Kool-Aid! Just remember Jim Jones and the people's temple.

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TEA PARTIES/BONKERS

I was disappointed to find out that you were right regarding the Fayette-Coweta 9.12 Patriots webpage. I believe that Americans need to become more involved in their government - and should be joining together to elect those who will work for the American people - and not the special interest lobbyists who have more access to our leaders than those who actually vote for them. It is common sense that you can't keep using the same methods/strategies of leadership/involvement - and expect different results. The radicals on both sides of our political spectrum have taken hold of the Tea Party/Coffee Party organizations. I hope that the next election will have over 60% of the electorate participating - and make the true voice of the American people heard in our state houses and DC.

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DM show me the RADICALS

I have showed you many times the real RADICALS that surround Obama.. Where are those RADICALS in the Teaparty.. You mean all those OLD people that are members? You know how crazy people over 60 are..

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Lindsey -The Radicals that

want to celebrate the Confederacy. You should see the response in the majority of the national blogs on this one!! No one would deny the Southern states the joy of celebrating Southern Heritage and Traditions. But the Confederacy? The act of war/secession was treason; the practice of slavery a dark spot on our history; THE CONFEDERACY LOST! What to celebrate? That governor of Mississippi is not doing the south a favor. It is quite obvious from certain bloggers on this blog that some Republicans are using the 'southern strategy' that worked for Reagan and Nixon 30 YEARS AGO! Conservatives have some very valid concerns - and they are expressed by most in an intelligent manner. . . but the US is not the same US that it was 30 years ago - and using ignorance and prejudice to create mistrust and fear is going to denigrate the Republican Party. There are too many cogent issues to be dealt with than to cater to the 'radicals' who still believe that the ‘southern’ strategy will work in 2010.

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DM - I'm with Lindsey

What the heck are you talking about? I have never read so much gobble-d-gook in my life!

The question was, where are the radicals in the Tea Party?

Just point them out. Who are they?

BTW, I personally don't think Obama has done anything wrong here, he told us exactly what he was all about and what he was going to do. We all knew his background and he was voted in anyway. We all knew his associations with Marxist elements. He is simply doing what he said he would do if elected President. He's "transforming America". Quotes included to quote the President. WE all know it's not America; it's the United States of America. I just don't want to be blamed for being "illiterate" by a few on this board, not that it matters.

Now it's up to us to correct this mistake and we will start in November.

Get ready for change we can believe in. :-]

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DM what has the Confederacy to do with the Teaparty?

Unless you are trying to link the two I don't see the symbolism.

Are you surmising that every Teaparty member is a closet Confederate? I bet those Teaparty members in NEW YORK will be surprised to hear about that..

btw.. when did being proud of a heritage become racist?

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DM - democracies

I am sure you are almost finished with my recommended reading list on the Progressive Era. I am sure you learned a lot too.

Now here is one to read on democracy and how it works, 60% won't do it for us.

The Myth of the Rational Voter: Why Democracies Choose Bad Policies ~ Bryan Caplan

Don't let facts get in the way of how you feel.