PTC woman opposes pay raise for mayor

One Peachtree City resident argued Thursday night against a potential raise for Mayor Don Haddix.

Speaking during the public comment portion of the city council meeting, Caren Russell said it didn’t make sense given the state of the city’s economy.

“I cannot see where the mayor can really work side-by-side with employees of the city, and take a raise, and look at you in the face and work with you every day, day in and day out,” Russell said.

Russell noted that while mayor and council work hard, city employees are also working extra hard because of the budget deficit “and are doing more than they used to do, and working longer hours.” She also said the city council members knew budget cuts were in the offing when they ran for office.

Haddix makes $9,000 a year as mayor and has support from fellow council members Doug Sturbaum and Eric Imker for a potential pay raise. Imker previously has said he would support a raise of up to perhaps $15,000.

Council members Vanessa Fleisch and Kim Learnard previously have said they would not support a raise for the mayor’s seat.

Russell in her speech Thursday night said she wanted Haddix to recuse himself from such a vote if it ever took place, though she hopes Imker and Sturbaum reconsider their decision on the matter.

Council did not further discuss the topic after Russell’s brief presentation.

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MAYOR PAY RAISE

You got it right 'John Doe'.
Course if you don't give him a raise who's going to continue to have to support him.
This guys awful young to be playing mayor for a living, what'd he do before, just how much experience did he have, other than sitting at Sturbaum's feet?
He's just too into himself.

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Some dude opposes something

Is this news? Who cares what one lady in PTC thinks? From reading the story, it appears that the council hadn't even done anything relevant to the PTC woman's concerns. This ain't news! How much did PTC woman pay The Citizen to get a headline!

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Today there was this guy in Peachtree City. He looked puzzled. Obviously lost in thought and just wandering. He refused comment.

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Man Seen in PTC; He looked puzzled...

Dadgummit; Bonkers got out again!!! Who's turn was it to make sure the gate was locked????

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Careful, you might get ostracized for dropping stuff all over the site! Bad stuff too!

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If true, I retract...

>>The stated salary that has been in the Budget since 2007 beginning January 1, 2010 was $18,000.00 for the Mayor and $12,000.00 for Council Members. That was the salary at the time I declared and was the known salary for 2.5 years.

This is not a vote to increase the salary, just a vote to move the money back that the majority on last Council moved to the side, for election reasons. Note they did not cancel the raise and very clearly said the next Council could move the money back, thus opening the door to do so themselves if they won.
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Mayor Haddix, if this is all true, then I stand corrected and now blame The Citizen for shabby reporting of the facts. No, I did not follow the details of the election and no, I don't attend the meetings. Because I've generally lost my faith in the elected officials as well as the so-called "fourth estate" to present factual, un-spun information so that we can make informed decisions. Does it really take FIRST-HAND experience in all political matters in order to develop an informed opinion? Obviously so. And no one has time for that.

As I said, if what you said is true, then, in the words of another controversial mayor, The Wizard of Oz, "That's a horse of a different color." I commend you on your rapid reply, retract my earlier criticism and, now, wait on The Citizen to step up and correct the record for the benefit of its readers. It's time for the The Citizen to act like a responsible one.

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By State Law a sitting Council cannot give itself a pay raise. They must give it to the next Council or later.

So, in PTC, in example, new Councils were seated in 2008 and 2010.

I believe in open and honest government. So, even if it upsets some people they will know where I stand and why if at all possible.

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Hogwash and pork barrel

No matter the state of the city's affairs, let me ask you a couple of very simple questions, Mayor Haddix...

1) Did you not know the salary of the Mayor's office when you ran for office just a few months ago?

2)If it was insufficient for you, no matter the salary, why did you campaign for the job?

3)Do you really think that what you've done to improve the lot of PTC in the month's since your election warrants a raise of almost 100%.

And the world wonders why people hate their politicians???

Come on.

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The stated salary that has been in the Budget since 2007 beginning January 1, 2010 was $18,000.00 for the Mayor and $12,000.00 for Council Members. That was the salary at the time I declared and was the known salary for 2.5 years.

This is not a vote to increase the salary, just a vote to move the money back that the majority on last Council moved to the side, for election reasons. Note they did not cancel the raise and very clearly said the next Council could move the money back, thus opening the door to do so themselves if they won.

If you followed the Budget process last year and the election you know very well I have always supported the raises going into effect. I was crystal clear so you should not be shocked now.

The last raise was in 1985. When one was proposed under Lenox it was 'not the right time' and withdrawn for political reasons. In 2007 it was passed with one abstain but delayed until 2010 for political reasons.

I just don't do the political vote thing. Right is right and that is how I vote. The right time has been here for a long time now. Even with the raise we would still be making less than even smaller cities when you look at pay plus benefits relative to city size.

As for Ms. Russell, I think a bit of sunshine is appropriate here. She has not liked me for over two years now because she has been an very active supporter of Doug McMurrain's CCD 54W Big Box development from the beginning. She has written more than one email, Letter to the Editor and spoken at Council Meetings expressing her feelings. Ms. Russell has been especially angry about the 5-0 vote to deny the CCD amendment to the agreement this year and my refusal to form a Task Force to review CCD yet again.

As well, she was an active supporter of Plunkett's bid for Mayor. Plunkett was a key architect in the CCD agreement requirements.

All of this is very much her right to want, think and say. I will never deny her that. But in fairness to me and Councilmen Sturbaum and Imker her motivation should be noted as well.

I do take exception to one part of the news article. Her presentation was not brief. It ran over twice the time allotted for Public Comment. I allowed it to continue since I was the subject of her presentation, otherwise I would have called time.

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Mayor Haddix

I appreciate that you take the time to explain your position on these pages, please keep it up.

I would like to see other members of the council use this forum to explain their positions and provide more clarity to how the government is run.

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Mayor Haddix

You are beginning to sound like you are in a five-animal cat fight on here!

Get off here except to write a report often and regular as to our progress or lack of it.

The best local government is a silent one who shows results.

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Mayor

It is completely unprofessional to blog on the citizen about any topic regarding pay raises or any other city affairs. Furthermore the way you conduct yourself as mayor, specifically on these blogs is embarrassing. As a cities mayor you have done a terrible job at representing us. An even semi-decent politician has enough common sense and self restraint to not have to prove themselves in blogs. Why are city employees who work so much harder than you facing possible pay cuts when you want to get a raise? YOU DO NOT DESERVE A RAISE EVEN IF WE WERE IN A FINANCIAL SURPLUS!!! On another note I am offended about how you disrespected citizens exercising their right to speak in the first city cell tower workshop. You were out of line and many people were mistreated. (to see the mayor in action you can go to the cities website and go to the online news section and play the video of the cell tower workshop)

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John_Doe: da mayor

The best thing we could do is pay the mayor and council nothing except allowed expenses.
This is a City Manager type of government and it is a shame that politics doesn't allow us to have one who does it professionally.

Mayor should be like High Sheriffs! Do much of nothing except sign papers and make their self known when chicanery is involved. Help hire City Managers and review them only. Police Chiefs and Fire Chiefs is a whole other subject.

Who are these mis-treated people you mention? Mayors don't represent just the staff, they represent all citizens!