F’ville OK’s bid for Grady-Beauregard roundabout

City-supplied graphic of planned intersection change.

There is about to be a big — round —change coming to the busy intersection of Grady Avenue and Beauregard Boulevard in Fayetteville.

Initial work will begin in April and will lead to a re-worked intersection that will feature a roundabout in place of the current four-way stop. The $553,000 bid for the project was approved March 17 by the Fayetteville City Council.

City Director of Public Services Don Easterbrook said utility work is expected to begin in early April. The intersection of Grady Avenue and Beauregard Boulevard will be closed to traffic when construction of the roundabout begins once school has ended in May. The intersection will remain closed for up to 10 weeks, with work completed by the time school re-opens in August, Easterbrook said.

Describing the layout of the roundabout, Easterbrook said there will be an interior grassed island 47 feet in diameter immediately surrounded by a 17-foot-wide drivable truck apron for vehicles with limited turning radius. The truck apron will be constructed of stamped concrete that will resemble cobblestone, according to Integrated Science & Engineering consultant Jason Walls.

The outer asphalt ring, at 18 feet wide, will be for regular traffic use.

In all, the radius of the roundabout from the center to the outside of the asphalt ring will be approximately 60 feet, Easterbrook said.

Each side of Beauregard and Grady approaching the roundabout will come with a feature not always seen with roundabouts. Traffic entering and exiting the roundabout from each of the four sides will be separated by a small triangular-shaped median.

An additional feature to the roundabout will be specific to Grady Avenue as it approaches from Ga. Highway 54 to the west. Although roundabouts by their design have right turn-only lanes, Grady Avenue as it approaches the roundabout will have the customary right turn lane and another that splits off and travels directly into the roundabout, thereby potentially reducing the traffic back-ups so frequent on that side of the intersection.

The grass and low-lying plants that will be included in the center of the roundabout will be accented by landscaping with low-lying shrubs and grasses on all four sides of the intersection. The height of the shrubs will be kept to a minimum so as not to obstruct the view of motorists entering the roundabout area, said Walls.

Easterbrook said the city is also working on a conceptual design of the Grady Avenue/Hwy. 85 intersection, including a southbound right turn lane and the lengthening of the northbound left turn, in case that upgrade is warranted once the roundabout opens.

Easterbrook said detour signs alerting drivers to the street closures will be posted in the areas Grady Avenue and Ga. Highway 54, Grady and Ga. Highway 85 and along Hwy. 85 and Beauregard and south of the intersection on Redwine Road.

The project award went to Southeastern Site Development, Inc. with a bid amount of $552,772.39. The Southeastern bid was the second lowest of seven bids received. Southeastern won the bid after consulting engineering firm Integrated Science and Engineering reviewed the bids and found that the low bidder had omitted some of the bid items.

The roundabout project is funded through the city’s Impact Fee Fund. Easterbrook said there will be a projected shortfall of $191,000 that will be covered by remaining funds in the Lafayette Avenue Extension project that was recently put on hold.

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No YOU go..no YOU go

ever since moving here I've experienced that motorist here have this ultra passive habit at four way stops. Although the Southern gentile and hospitable attitude is welcomed in most areas just not on the road. Does ANYONE here follow the four way stop rule? and before you natives blame it on the "yankees" and transplants..we are known for the rolling stop.
Inner apron, outer apron..triangles within the roundabout. this is gonna be funny.
Im coming from a city in So cal that had 2 rounabouts that works great and aesthetically i think they look nice. I bet this roundabout with remain as a four way stop sign without the stop sign. Watch!

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F’ville OK’s bid for Grady-Beauregard roundabout

Notice how the idiots in charge don't bother to listen to us? This is yet another clear example of the peoples will being ignored, and more money being wasted.

And the bid for this wastefl project will clearly become larger once they breal ground and the never ending delays start..Take the money, place half aay on a rainy day fund for the future and the other use to finish exsiting projects..

Roundabouts never work...

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Beauregard Boulevard Roundabout

My name is not B.B. Roundabout.

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Roundabouts

Roundabouts work on the theory of drivers yielding to other drivers, which does NOT happen. Look at any road where lanes end & drivers are required to merge. There is a mad dash to get the lane. There will be fender benders everyday, which will only further delay traffic. We don't care how it works in England. AND, if you don't like Jordan's Salvage, STAY IN YOUR CONDO!!!

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OK not B.B.

I do believe there is evidence that you sometimes go round in circles. ;>)

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OK B.B. Roundabout

Whatever you say......................

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safety first

Modern roundabouts are the safest form of intersection in the world. Visit www.iihs.org for safety facts. The safety comes from the ‘slow and go’ operation instead of the ‘stop or go fast’ way a stop light works (or the ‘keep going fast’ large traffic circle fantasy). The smaller size of the modern roundabout is what makes them safer. Safety is the #1 reason there are over 2,100 modern roundabouts in the US today and many more on the way. Slow and go also means less delay than a stop light, especially the other 20 hours a day people aren’t driving to or from work.

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ScottRAB

First problem with your statement is that there is no stoplight there, just a four way stop. Second problem is the roundabout concept is predicated on people doing things the right way, in actuality, we have so many ME FIRST people out here, I see nothing but trouble coming out of this intersection.

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Roundabout

Anyone that has driven in Europe knows that roundabouts work.
I welcome them as a solution to the gridlocked 4 way stops like the one on Grady/Beuregaurd(sp?).
That said, there will be a huge learning curve as people dont seem to be able to grasp simple concepts such as take gap give gap.
For an example, drive down 85s and stay in the right lane when it goes from 4 lanes to 2 just south of Grady ave. See how that works for ya , and report back.
Have fun!

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Stop signs are the same way..

Predicated on people doing the right thing. I don't see the difference. Either you can drive and follow the rules of the road, or you can't.

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Spyglass

Stop signs are never green, you always have to stop, stop lights can allow you to go through without stopping, if you can't see that difference you must be a lot of fun at the 4 way stops.

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I too wonder about that roundabout...

thingy. What's it going to be like during the hours of 3:30-5:00P for those waiting on Beauregard Boulevard/Redwine - North and South - while there's a continuous stream of cars on Grady going east. Many use Grady to bypass the infamous 85/54 afternoon tie-up.

Perhaps, it could get so bad that traffic lights will be necessary.

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Taxpayer Money

Nothing is beyond imagination when the pols are using taxpayer monies. I travel through this intersection at least twice a day and I have yet to see a problem. Surely the small winding stretch of road between this intersection and S. Glynn Street (GA 85) needs major improvements but I don't see that as part of this project.

I believe that we are seeing Ken Steele's vision of Fayetteville rather than simple common sense.

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A better location

If they want to waste money but, at least, beautify the city, wouldn't it be better to choose the intersection of Jeff Davis and Lanier for the traffic circle, so that they could take the land of that unsightly, fire trap junk yard and tear it down?

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this helps traffic how ??

Is this a big back up spot that 4 way stop now ?

This is not 54 or 85/92 or Stonewall or East Lanier/W. Lanier, just a pretty little 4 way stop.

In driving down Redwine Road for 19 years never realized it's name changed to Beauregard. I had to bring up a map to determine where this is.

Obviously someone has to much money they have to spend to drop more than 1/2 a million dollars on this ??

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Is this necessary?

What a waste of money. Plus, think of the annual maintenance costs. Do government people sit around thinking of new ways to keep taxpayers in debt?

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Yes woody, that is exactly what they do

You had to ask? And then they hope someone will name this thing the "Ken Steele Roundabout"

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A Better Name

I vote to name it for a taxpayer and one who has more sense than those who approved this. Let's put up a sign saying "Future Site of the Robert W. Morgan Traffic Circle" and see how long it stays up.

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Spyglass, West Bypass Roundabout and Loaded School Buses

Unless the County's plans change there will be a roundabout at the intersection of the West Fayetteville Bypass and Lee's Mill Road.

Loaded school buses, a major thoroughfare and a roundabout!!!???

Where is the logic in that picture?

Before the 2004 SPLOST referendum, the County Commissioners and all municipality officials sat down and decided that the # 1 project to be funded by the SPLOST revenues would be the East Fayetteville Bypass. Current Commission Chairman Herb Frady and current Commissioner Lee Hearn participated in that decision making process. That meeting took place on Tuesday, October 28, 2003.

When former Commission Chairman Jack Smith was in office, the funds for the # 1 priority Transportation SPLOST project were switched to the West Fayetteville Bypass. Current Commission Chairman Herb Frady and current Commissioner Lee Hearn participated in that decision making process, also.

When citizens questioned Chairman Smith as to why the County was building the West Fayetteville Bypass instead of the # 1 priority East Fayetteville Bypass, his reply was, "You voted for it!" Following that line of reasoning, the voters also voted for the East Fayetteville Bypass and it was the # 1 priority project included in the 2004 Transportation SPLOST Referendum.

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Roundabouts?

Wow, now you despise "roundabouts!"

I resent that. No stopping if you get into the correct lane!

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Going in Circles

Guess you could say they voted in a roundabout way.

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You got it!

The definition of roundabout! Never starting and stopping! Always observing!

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The WFB and Mayberry USA

I've always believed that part of the insanity that drives the WFB is a long term promise made under the table to the developers of this "old town" concept that runs from here all the way to the other side of 54. When the intersection of 54 and 85 became so congested it upset their concept of a walk around town and pedestrian atmosphere they wanted, The city and county has gone out of their way to pave side walks, old style signs, park benches for no one, etc. It's a failed development they continue to push, including diverting traffic anywhere but through their precious concept of Mayberry and Andy Griffith. Hence the priority of the WFB,.

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I like a roundabout...

Much easier to navigate than a 4 way stop to me. That said, I don't drive around with a phone stuck to my ear.

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Roundabout-another reason

to avoid Fayetteville. Trust me, when this is done, no one is going to give a #@!$ about the low lying shrubs and grasses.

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