Need cited for more path, road money in PTC

Peachtree City is falling behind on its road and cart path repaving and needs an infusion of capital over the next several years to catch up, the city council learned at a workshop meeting March 4.

The city in the past has budgeted $1.5 million a year to repave and repair streets and paths, but that will almost certainly have to be bumped up to allow for more work. Councilman Eric Imker suggested looking at ways to double that amount to $3 million a year.

With 178 miles of roads and 97 miles of cart paths, the city can’t afford to fall behind on road and path maintenance, because they deteriorate over time and the longer the wait, the longer the list gets, explained Community Services Director Jon Rorie.

A third of the city’s streets need significant repair or complete repaving, and making that happen would cost a minimum of $6.4 million, and up to $19.9 million, Rorie said.

The larger figure is for a “full depth reclamation” which cuts down to the base of the road and rebuilds the road from scratch. The smaller figure is for putting a two-inch overlay of asphalt on the existing pavement, which may not be cost effective over the long haul since many of the streets’ problems exist beneath the surface, city officials have said in the past.

Until the city figures out a way to fund the street and path work, the city will continue to pave the worst-rated streets and paths each year, Rorie said. He cautioned that if such a process continues, more and more city streets and paths will continue to erode and the list of repaving projects will grow each year.

“It looks like we’re losing ground and not gaining it,” said Councilman Terry Ernst.

Manpower wise, the city has a seven-man street paving crew and a seven-man cart path crew. The street paving crew is supplemented by contracted work with private paving companies, but no such luxury is available for the cart path paving crew, since contractors won’t bid on small 10 and 12-foot wide paths when they can be doing much larger street projects, Rorie explained.

The cart path crew can get about 5 miles of path fixed each year, but they are restricted from improving on that figure due to equipment and manpower limitations. It will take more equipment, manpower and supplies to eclipse the 5-mile mark, Rorie noted.

Council got a quick briefing on proposed path improvement projects, but nearly all were sidelined for the moment due to the funding shortage. One that stands a chance to advance is a small connection in the Cedarcroft subdivision that would cost an estimated $22,000 to prevent carts from having to cross the busy MacDuff Parkway twice just to reach the commercial area on Ga. Highway 54.

Another path project with some gumption is connecting the Carriage Lane area to the Peachtree Crossings shopping center just outside the city limits.

The city also faces a decision on the existing path tunnel underneath Crosstown Road, as the growing height of golf carts has made its seven-foot ceiling a tight squeeze if not impossible, officials reported. Council also talked about adding a path to connect that tunnel on the north side of Crosstown to the McDonalds/car wash/hotel and storage commercial area near Ga. Highway 74, but those options were far too expensive as well.

wxman's picture
Joined: 02/15/2010
Not sure about the lack of upkeep on the cart paths but...

what I do see around town is a need for a lot of updating of common public areas such as park facilities, neighborhood entrances, etc.
We all know eastern Coweta has plenty of open land for new developments and most families want to buy something new and fresh. If we want to hold our own, we need to do what it takes to maintain and improve upon our assets. It would be nice to be able to both educate out kids and continue to live in a decent place after they move out, seeing there will always be something "fresher" just to the west that we will have to compete with.

rmoc's picture
Joined: 03/22/2006
wxman I agree

PTC needs to make the city a destination for folks. There are plenty of homes in PTC that a family can afford but they are old and tired and the neighborhoods are full of renters or questionable owners like Wynnmeade. Spend the money on shiny and new is what many are chosing to do. I would love a small updated home in PTC to downsize to but the prices are not worth downsizing for. The neighborhoods with homes worth downsizing to never seem to have any homes for sale.

PTC Observer
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Joined: 04/23/2007
Wynnmeade -rmoc

Wynnmeade is old news, Twiggs Corner is where we have problems. Looks like everyone's trying to get out of there. Every home over there is for sale below $100K, care to guess why?

The question is what the council going to do about it?

However, to your point, there is a lot of property in this city that needs improvement and/or redevelopment. With increased business from our new studio, perhaps there are some enterprising investors out there.

moelarrycurly's picture
Joined: 10/17/2010

The reason those homes are not for sale is the majority of rental homes in this city are owned by realtors. Ask any realtor. Then ask the realtor mayor what she thinks about it. The upkeep on these properties, other than mowing, is just about zilch.

PTC Observer
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Joined: 04/23/2007
PTC Amenities

Well it seems we have some decisions to make doesn't it? We've been living on borrowed time in PTC. If we want a community that features the amenities we want, we must pay for them, or the entire concept of Peachtree City becomes a failure. Blight can happen here as well. I have always supported taxes to develop and maintain what makes this community great.

Pay up now or live in a city that once was great.

Let's see if our new council has some backbone.

Spyglass's picture
Joined: 01/28/2008
Pony up, I am game

I like my paths.

Husband and Fat...
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Joined: 07/23/2012
This is not new

Anyone with an ounce of common sense knew that we were robbing Peter to pay Paul the last couple of years when the splost money ran out. Council knew this too. Mr. Jolley, who ran for mayor and had more votes than the incumbant, even brought this up during the election.

I'm with you PTCO, we need to pay if we want to get our fair city back to being the best.

Citizen_Steve's picture
Joined: 11/20/2005
Not a Problem

I've lived in PTC for 10 years and where my cart travels the paths are better than they've ever been.

It is the Modus operandi of council to exaggerate and manufacture "problems" to project a facade of self-importance, as do reporters in The Citizen in order to spark readership and sell ads.

A third of the city's streets are absolutely not in need of significant repair, and a golf cart parade of Bubbas who've installed lift kits and can't get through tunnels does not put an onus on the city to provide remedy.

And we have not robbed Peter, nor are we in debt to Paul, even if Ryan Jolly said as much.


PTC Observer
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Joined: 04/23/2007
No Problem - Citizen Steve?

So, let me understand you here, you say that where your cart travels there's no problem, ergo there is only a "manufactured" problem to help The Citizen to sell ads? You actually believe these words?

If so, I would suggest you get out more, a lot more.

Now, if you had taken the tack that we need to make certain that we are managing our maintenance assets more effectively, I could go with that. Certainly, we shouldn't just accept that we have some sort of 5 mile limit or that we automatically need more people. I would like to see some hard data on that for sure and understand the trade offs on overtime vs. more equipment and people. We need to understand the metrics that are put in place to improve performance. Making the assumption that we can get a little more out of what we have, we still have a lot of work that needs to be done to both our roads and our cart paths. IMHO.

Spyglass's picture
Joined: 01/28/2008
I agree, Bozos with lifted carts

That cannot get through tunnels are at the bottom of my worry list. I say we spend ZERO dollars to accommodate them.

ptctrader2010's picture
Joined: 03/06/2010
Totally Agree

We should spend our dollars for the benefit of the many... not the "lifted" few!

Robert W. Morgan
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Joined: 10/26/2005
Absolutely, the tunnels are fine as is

They have signs telling you the exact height and anyone buying a golf cart should check out the tunnel heights near their home before dropping $7grand for a lifted cart. If not. So what. City should cover themselves legally by informing all cart dealers of the heights of all existing tunnels and a statement that the city is not going to spend tax dollars enlarging those tunnels and make them post it in their showroom.

Someone buys a used lifted art from a private individual and gets a surprise on his first ride - again - so what.

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