Citizens say, ‘We’re not taking it anymore’

Over the past two months, we’ve come about as close as one can to witnessing a feeding frenzy against toxic government. The new kids on the block, Commissioner Steve Brown and Commissioner Allen McCarty, are working long hours to put an end to the secret meetings and backroom dealings of the Fayette County Board of Commissioners. They have shown a lot of courage.

The two new commissioners are being backed up by a growing cast of Fayette County citizens from all parts of the county. Similar to what we’ve witnessed in Egypt, your neighbors have been turning out for commission meetings in droves. The motto is, “We’re not going to take it anymore!”

Dozens of citizens leave their chair in the packed meeting room and come down to the podium to make a public comment. Some demand transparency and the end of the half-baked schemes. Many cry foul and insist the worthless West Fayetteville Bypass be stopped immediately.

We, the local taxpayers, have refused to accept the excuses from the three leftovers: Chairman Herb Frady, Commissioner Lee Hearn and Commissioner Robert Horgan. They are forcing the “Road to Nowhere” down our throats at the same time they ignore the top priority project in the East Fayetteville Bypass.

Now, thanks to Commissioner Brown and Commissioner McCarty, the East Fayetteville Bypass, the road we were all promised, appears to be back and fully funded. The excuses of the three leftovers about there was no money to build the East Fayetteville Bypass has come crashing down on their heads.

I have doubts about whether the three leftovers are dealing straight with us. It’s up to them to build the East Fayetteville Bypass first. If there’s any cash remaining, then they can finish building the West Fayetteville Bypass, even though it is useless. Otherwise, if they keep building the West Fayetteville Bypass first, we shouldn’t trust them.

At the upcoming March 2 workshop meeting, Commissioner Brown is taking on another big rip-off in Fayette County. He is proposing a resolution be passed that removes all of the mass transit buses planned for our county. We need to take the time to be at the 3:30 p.m. meeting and show our support for not allowing MARTA into Fayette County.

Fayetteville Mayor Ken Steele and former Commission Chairman Jack Smith kept voting Fayette County into the regional government’s mass transit plan. Well, now it’s time for the Board of Commissioner to just say “no” loud and clear.

If we wanted to live near MARTA buses, we would’ve moved to Fulton County. Show up to this meeting because our quality of life is on the line.

There’s no other place to go to avoid the destruction mass transit brings. Come take a stand for Fayette County. Join us on March 2 at 3:30 p.m. to show your support to remove Fayette County from the regional mass transit plan.

If you don’t come, you have no one to blame but yourself.

David Barlow

Tyrone, Ga.

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Spyglass, West Bypass Is Still In My Backyard

Spy, where did you get the idea that the West Bypass has been removed from my backyard or any other yard?

It hasn't been removed nor is there any indication that it will be removed.

As recently as this past Friday, the surveyors were marching forward and folks were still receiving letters from the right-of-way agent.

Nothing has changed for the folks in Phase II of the West Bypass. However, the speculation continues as to why the # 1 priority East Bypass was ever dropped.

Fayette County along with the Atlanta Regional Commission has paid millions of our tax dollars to numerous consulting firms to tell us exactly what we should do about problems they perceive we have or will have in the future. Why would you pay millions of dollars for someone to tell you what to do, if you weren't going to do what they said?

PERSONALLY, SPY, I'M SICK OF THE WHOLE MESS!!!!! I would much rather be sitting on a beach somewhere with my spotted pup and my art supplies. Even though it is a big mess, my conscience won't let me abandon the mess. PUBLIC APATHY IS WHAT GOT US INTO THIS SITUATION! We didn't hold our officials accountable! Heck, we didn't even know what they were doing so how could we have held them accountable? It was just all too much trouble.

I have to give credit where credit is due, though. Our previous commission did the people of Fayette County a great service in that they slapped us awake with their outrageous behavior. Spy, when was the last time you attended a county commission meeting? It is definitely an eye opening experience! We closed our eyes for fifteen minutes and when we woke up there sat the West Bypass Phase II and Eric Maxwell dipping water from our well.

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Obviously

You're having trouble following logic.

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The East Bypass IS a Bypass

The East Bypass, unlike the West Bypass, starts and ends at Ga. 85, bypassing Fayetteville. Here is a practical route that will serve motorists where the real traffic is. I already use Corinth Rd. to get to McDonough from where I live in Hopeful Community. Had the commissioners stayed with their first priority, they never would have received the enormous amount of criticism they've experienced. Thank goodness the ones who spearheaded the West Bypass have paid the price, and hopefully won't be back.

Let's just hope our commissioners will stay with the East Bypass this time. It really will help reduce traffic in Fayetteville. Maybe this is their way of saying that they finally realized that the people of Fayette County are solidly against the West Bypass, and no amount of fixing or changing its name to Veterans Parkway will make any difference.

As long as the West Bypass is an active project, citizens will continue to rise up in protest. If the commissioners stick to their number one priority and follow through with the East Bypass, publicity and public comments will definitely turn positive.

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Pips...can you say

not in my backyard? You seem fine with the bypass that is not running in/around your area.

Consider your credibility on this subject flushed.

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The east bypass just duplicates existing roads, it's needed about as much as the west one is. I find it terrible that you'd throw the people on this route under the bus just to save yourself. Shows it's not just the principle here to you, but just you. Nothing positive here in your post.

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The East Fayetteville Bypass

The East Fayetteville Bypass was the only project in the SPLOST out of the hundreds listed that received 100% support from all jurisdictions within the county. Everyone, me included, saw the value in having a road running along the Clayton County border, absorbing traffic laterally that would otherwise reach SR 85-North by going through Fayetteville.

The County’s engineering firm, ARC and GDOT liked the East Fayetteville Bypass.

Our current problem is the top priority project was dropped in 2007 and now everyone is scurrying to throw the engineering and such together before our matching funds are pulled, again. We should have been way out in front of this project at the time when Eric Maxwell declared it “dead” and pushed for the useless West Fayetteville Bypass instead.

Mr. Wimmer makes some sound points and I acknowledged some of them several meetings ago. One of his options is a no-go because it plows through an existing subdivision. Wetlands may hamper at least one of the other options.

I am meeting with a few people to review the options.

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FYI

This is from the meeting packet.

During these discussions the advantages and disadvantages of multiple alignments were presented and considered. Areas of particular concern include congestion relief (i.e., anticipated Level of Service), intersection control, access management, property impacts, and cost.

Based on input received during the presentations and staff's understanding of these and other issues, staff recommends the alignment as shown on Exhibit A, with a 2-lane road except where additional lanes are required for access management, passing lanes and intersection design.

Details of intersection control and the northern termini will be further studied and worked out once a concept is agreed upon.

The EFB Phase 1 and 2 are in the Atlanta Regional Commission's Envision 6 Regional Transportation Plan and FY 2008-2013 Transportation Improvement Program (see Project No. FA-236A and FA-236B) and, with the Board's approval of the recommended conceptual alignment, staff expects both projects to remain eligible for federal funds in the Plan 2040 RTP/TIP, currently under development.

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Re: FYI

Still isn't needed, if someone wants to bypass Fayetteville, all they have to do is go along established roads, almost the same exact route, but go ahead and spend money on something that isn't needed, I thought you were supposed to be different, the savior of the little people, now you're going to throw the other side of the county under the bus, for a useless bypass. Way to go Steve, you're the man.

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hutch

If I recall correctly, there used to be a wagon road with coach ditches carved out in it that went by "Shakerag" station near where currently stands the convenience store at the corner of GA 54 and Robinson Road!
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I'll just bet we could still be using that for all traffic providing there were offsets to park and let the stage go by every few miles!

The mail must go through except when it rains real hard. Then mud!

We could have saved a bunch of tax money over all those years---why that thing is four-laned now.

Campsites and bunk stations and picnic areas would be all along that old road and still be there. Springs in the bank along the sides of the road would have a pipe extending out of the hill with spring water running out of it for drivers.

Hard-boiled eggs, jerky, dried beans canned, molasses in jars, corn bread, cured shoulder slices, and hard-tack biscuits could be bought about every 50 miles at the bunking stations. Bed-bugs were real bad however.

Now that is a lack of progress that everyone likes.

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First thing, we're talking about the east of Fayetteville area, not the PTC area, and it isn't progress to spend money just to spend it. Spend it on something needed, neither of these bypasses are needed, the congestion just isn't there, and the way the county is growing, or not as it seems, it's not going to be needed for a very long time. Steve appears to be like the other three, they just have their own separate little pet projects, it's all about the ego's there, especially Steve's.

BTW, from what I hear, depending on where you are, the bedbugs are still bad, I believe NYC has a terrible problem with them.

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Tell us, Grampa Roundabout

What was Fayette county like before the electricity came here?

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bacon and hutch

I wasn't actually there---I researched it! I heard Teddy Roosevelt talk about it though. I was looking for "people who want not to pay any taxes" when I ran across it! They also don't want their income cut back due to not having to pay taxes on it!
Anyway they were generally "toll" roads like 400 has! Some had logs (corduroy) across them to get out of the mud, but the bumpiness caused brain damage. No government regs then about bumpiness.

The bed bugs that motels and hotels and flop houses now have are much bigger than when the stage coaches ran by Shakerag. It is all a psychological things anyway--it is like flys on a coconut pie, making it a raisin pie, when you eat them or get bit by them you wont really die! They give the billions of bed mites food from the bed-bug offal from bites to humans. Now horseflies will put you down---and those deer bugs---WOW!

Off topic.

Someone asked about no electricity. You don't miss what you have never had, heard of, or seen. I really don't believe in electricity--have never seen any of it. I do actually think though that if Tom Edison had been presented a PC, he would have thoroughly enjoyed it and actually made something useful from it. It would however have been a Direct Current machine, requiring no AC converter. Lord knows what it might have done!

I heard Ben Franklin actually saw electricity once while flying a kite.
Someone told him to go fly one!
I hope that answers your questions.

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roundabout

I really don't believe in electricity

Oh, I didn't know that you are Amish..

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That is why the Amish don't use electricity. One can't see it nor understand how it works.
It must therefore be witchcraft or something similar.

It is like the bans who bernie madoff used---he paid them their 15-20% interest on investments with him, so they didn't see how he did it and didn't want to know! Really????

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Neither bypass is needed, IMHO

Is Fayetteville traffic all that bad? I guess it is compared to decades ago, but it's all relative and I don't see the need for either bypass now or in the short-term future. I agree with you that opponents of the WFB have no problem at all with homeowners getting the same treatment with the EFB that the WFB homeowners are experiencing.......they don't care about them and just hope that if everyone focuses on EFB that they will benefit and maybe the WFB won't be finished. A lack of principles and a real NIMBY attitude. The hell with anyone on the EFB...just as long as it doesn't affect me!

I still want to know about what happened to the "pending lawsuit" against the WFB that was talked about here over and over and OVER for a few months and I've yet to see anything. Then, the WFB opponents wonder why 3 of the Commissioners don't take them seriously....hmmmmmm.

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Compared to my travels on the Northside of Atlanta..

Fayetteville traffic is a walk in the park.

The NIMBY attitude has surfaced on here with the OP above and I think it's HIGHlarious.

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Well said

Frady, Hearn and Horgan have lied to us before. I agree the West Fayetteville Bypass should be put on hold while we build the road we should have been building in the first place.

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