$17 million surplus projected for this year’s Fayette school budget

Now halfway through the budget year, the Fayette County School System’s general fund budget is still well in the black and finance staff are projecting a June 30 surplus of more than $17 million.

But there are several unknown aspects of next year’s budget that hinge of the tax digest and the Georgia General Assembly.

School system Audits and Financial Reporting Coordinator Tom Gray told Board of Education members last week that, as of the end of January, the school system is $687,290 under budget for a general fund budget that totals $178.8 million. He told board members that, as of January, the school system’s general fund budget is projected to show a surplus of $205,532 on June 30.

The general fund in July 2010, the first month of the new school year, carried over a fund balance of $17,288 million. The projected fund balance for June 30 is $17.494 million, Gray said.

Budgeted for $10 million in salaries per month, the school system has come in below that figure for the first six months at $68,602,502, with salaries ranging from $9.73-9.94 million each month since July.

Benefits are budgeted at $3.46 million per month. Those expenses for the first six months of the year total $24,067,263. To date, the monthly breakdown shows actual expenditures ranging generally from $3.37-3.472 million, though there was a high of $3.71 million in January.

And with the operations portion of the general fund budget, those expenditures are budgeted in most months at $1.65 million. Expenditures thus far are ranging from a low of $745,097 in December to a high of $1.867 million in August.

The school board will likely begin initial discussions pertaining to the FY 2011-2012 budget sometime in March. And those discussions will begin by taking into account the continuing economic realities brought on by the recession.

The Fayette County Commission was told last week to expect a 6-10 percent decrease in the upcoming tax digest. If that projection is realized it will come on the heels of an eight percent decrease in the county’s value last year. That drop was a stark departure from the many years of steady growth seen in Fayette County.

Also currently unknown is what will happen with funding by the Georgia General Assembly, especially in light of the federal stimulus dollars that have been exhausted.

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the new 3/2 vote!!!

Yes, and now we have 3 pro child/teacher members on the school board.

True, we still have Rivers sitting there empty costing us a bundle for the 'learning curve' of the wizzardess of wallstreet and the developers wife, but it could be so much worse.

They could still be incontrol!!!!

Everyone needs to thank their lucky stars we now have a MAJORITY on the board who put children and teachers first.

Thank you Marion Key, Dr Todd, and our new member, Dr Tolbert.

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Time off

Maybe it was time off for good behavior? The recommendation for "making up the time" was not well suggested to the board.
Seems to me like there were way too many out and this was an extremely costly means to us taxpayers to make up the days. Subs, Buses, electricity, and on and on. Those who worked and rescheduled their lives (loyalty to students) will not be rewarded or recognized for their devotion, only critisized.

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Time Off

Considering this should be public information, will the school board report in the next meeting on how many employees and students were out for these days? This money could have bent spent on restoring pay cuts or even buying supplies for the teachers.

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Principal didn't say no...

and he was so kind as to keep their dog too.

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Principal didn't say no...

and he was so kind as to keep their dog too.

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Something odd in the BOE budget

Look at the Benefits expenditures above. Notice anything odd?

The Benefits expense for January was almost 10% above monthly average. This is a bit puzzling. I recall from a budgeting seminar I took years ago that your benefits cost will be the lowest in January, as the biggest component (health insurance) cycles to a new year and employees have new deductibles to deal with.

Instead, Benefit expenses are up? This could be explained if there were a lot of new hires in January, but it would appear that Wages expense hasn't deviated from the norm like Benefits.

Has the BOE enacted some new expensive benefit that took place on January 1? Or did they incur a 10% premium hike in their portion of employee insurance?

Not claiming anything nefarious is going on here, I'm just genuinely interested in such a significant variance from the norm.

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money back to teachers?

NOPE! There are too many heavily-salaried sorts at the top scrambling to justify their jobs/pay and too many teachers to distribute the wealth to. I chose teaching as a second profession, and I knew partly what I was getting into. What I was not prepared for was the strength of the education bureaucracy and its sophisticated means of placing the education of children far down on the priority list. While many in this forum have complained about whining,spoiled teachers, my limited experience in public education has introduced me to many fine teachers who work hard and long to offer their best to their students. I have not encountered so many of their ilk in administration.

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alleged teacher

I understand your frustration - but here in Fayette County - teachers are able to deliver an outstanding program because they have the support of their local administrators. I'm sure you must have encountered at least one or two supportive administrators in your second career.

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Stop Bitching about it

If this is your second career, then stop complaining and go back to your first career.

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Thanks for the career advice. Simple advice from a simpleton means so much.

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Heard the sme thing. . .

Out in the community I heard the same thing about the new "Super" also taking the time off. Also saw dozens of students shopping and riding around in cars with the "free pass" from school (no penalty for exam exempts), as long as they filled out the forms for being out. What a plan!
In regards to the article, the teachers will never see their $ back. It's time for more accountability and reporting from "downtown." It isn't like the teachers don't earn it!

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leading by example...

...it's nice to know that while I canceled my trip for winter break our new superintendent, and his girlfriend, took theirs. Must be nice. Or is this just a rumor?

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No Rumor

I just called fcboe and spoke to his secretary - he is out of town on vacation. Nice. My three kids are all in school watching videos and playing games. BUT - if they DON'T go - they will be given a packet of make-up work.

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No Rumor

Apparently after making teachers work this week, our Superintendent and his “friend” are on vacation together. Apparently our school board members modified the district vacation policy. Wish I had a job that I started in January and 7 weeks later received 5 paid days off of work. How interesting is it that the Superintendent can approve this new teacher’s paid request off and both leave the state together.

On another note how much did it cost the district to open the schools? All employees that took off got paid, we had to pay subs to come in and operation costs for busses.

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Vacation negotiation happens all the time

This is all part of the offer process. I have seen and allowed for new hires to take a week of vacation within their first three months if they requested it and negotiated it during the offer process. This is very commonplace in business.

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The Super and his teacher....

friend were on vacation. That's incredibly bad juju and can become very caustic. I hate to hear that.

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Cy & Teacher Vacation

She is a High School Teacher--shouldn't that be between her and her Principal? I think so, but some seem to want to make much ado about not much.

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much ado about not much

To me it is a HUGE ado about a lot. I canceled my family plans. We went NO WHERE. I went to work. I thought I was being a team player, a good employee, a responsible FC tax payer giving my fellow countians what they wanted (or at least what they claimed to have wanted). I thought that, in canceling my plans, I was doing what was EXPECTED of me. Where is the solidarity? Our new boss doesn't practice that which he preaches? He does not hold his girlfriend to the same expectations that he imposes upon the rest of us? I have learned my lesson. Just call me jaded.

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PTCCITIZEN59

You must realize by now that certain circumstances exist that make it OK for such as Superintendents and significant others, and also all of the court house "crowd," who are awarded certain privileges such as free BBQ food and very friendly court-house women and is such that we usually aren't privy to that information for significant periods of time.

It is the Georgian way!

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Roundabout

Roundabout, I know what you mean, don’t dare questioning anything told to you. Well that might have been ok n the past, but in today’s environment with smart phones and internet, it is time to get this information out. As you mentioned about the “court house crowd” or any other public office or department, we need to hold people accountable. This starts at the top with our elected officials. We may agree or disagree with things, but is that really bad? The bottom line is when people make decision for one person, that really makes policy for all people.

As top management (such as a superintendent) he was offered a contract and negotiated the terms. As a taxpayer I am totally upset with the new policy that the Board of Education just established. By giving a new employee 5 days of pay after being employees for 7 weeks is outrages. What private sector company does this for hourly employees? They would go bankrupt. I guess the board feels they can either raise taxes or take pay away from other teachers to pay for this new benefit.

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PTCcitizen59 wrote:

What private sector company does this for hourly employees? They would go bankrupt. I guess the board feels they can either raise taxes or take pay away from other teachers to pay for this new benefit.

I am neither supporting or defending the current superintendent nor the FCBOE, but I have to at least comment on this. The rules are a bit different for salaried vis-a-vis hourly people. Hence we have a traditional labor/management type structure in most businesses. I have worked in manufacturing most of my adult life and one thing that I can certifiably tell you is that it is really hard to find good people. As an hourly example, I can think of eight hourly employees-machine operators whom I have hired knowing that they needed a week off in the next ninety days for things such as scheduled vacation, getting married, having a baby, etc. I have seen it be mostly unpaid, but excused leave, but a couple of companies allowed the employee to go into arrears on vacation in order to get the employee to work for you. This is commonplace. Now on salaried people, I see this quite often. If it is difficult to find a good machine operator, it is four times that to find a good production manager or plant manager. You work around vacation length (do they want less pay but more vacation time up front), salary, and other HR type stuff. It is hard to find good people to lead other people effectively. As an employer, I am willing to do things such as allow vacation two months into an employment contract if it allows me to obtain a great plant manager and leader. Most of this is supply and demand. It is far easier to find hourly people with hourly type responsibilities than it is to find a salaried manager with salaried type time expectations, leadership, and commitment. And of the four manufacturing companies for which I have worked, they are all profitable and still in business.

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well, I WAS a good worker

AND... I worked for a very large company that could juggle if they wanted to...and they would laugh you out of their office if you suggested such as you do wedge. My family also owns a company as well as being familiar with the larger one of worked for, I can tell you the family owned you would wait till hell froze over before they would give you paid/un earned vacation. What kid of an idiot would go looking for a job knowing they had that coming up? ( a loser, shopping for a fool for a boss)

(I'm NOT speaking to the teacher issue...I'm speaking to the ridiculous assertions of Wedge. and I might add, if you were my middle management...you'd be on the street for stupidity!

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Sweetfeet & Workers

You ask "What kid(sic) of an idiot would go looking for a job knowing they had that coming up?" How about someone who was tired of being unemployed and had some skills and a positive attitude to offer a prospective employer who understands how real life works!

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issue...I'm speaking to the ridiculous assertions of Wedge. and I might add, if you were my middle management...you'd be on the street for stupidity!

Now that is one of the most generous doses of what I call Plantation Mentality that I have heard lately. You obviously do not comprehend very well because in reading and absorbing the posts by Wedge, you would know that he is anything but stupid, and he was not referring to jobs that any knuckledragger can accomplish. Family owned businesses, for the most part, are way too top heavy to give regular workers any breaks.

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Wedge & employees

Rgr, and both the Super and the Teacher are salaried, not hourly employees. And the Teacher is NOT directly supervised by the Super, but by her Principal---citizen59 either isn't aware of those facts or just is intent on making it an issue. Perhaps it's the "Pillow Talk" argument!

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AtHomeGym

Well then I apologize for being wrong. My impression is that all personal time off needs to be approved by the Super. I guess she was making up time the required time that was required by the Super. I wonder what would have happen to the principle if they said no?

Since your reading the AJC, read the section regarding the Atlanta Public school issues.

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Wedge,

I mostly agree with you in your statements. The differences that we have are in the interruption with traditional labor/management type structure. Apparently the manufacturing companies that you worked for endorsed a management dating a subordinate. This is a very shaky ground.

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PTCcitizen59

Understand that I have no knowledge concerning the FCBOE and who is dating whom. However let me enlighten you on what I have seen. Most fortune 500 companies in the past 20 years have allowed for interoffice dating and marriage. This is somewhat commonplace. The common demonominator in all of these type relationships is a lack of a direct reporting structure. In my company (~3500 employees) we have a VP of manufacturing married to the director of recruiting. In one of the plants, a salaried maintenance manager is married to an hourly quality management person that is on another shift. In my IS group there is a brother of one of the business analysts. I can come up with about 20 other examples in my company nationwide. As long as there is no direct reporting--it has been allowed in such companies as Colgate-Palmolive and Fortune Brands just to name a small example that i personally know.

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Wedge & New Subj

Did you see article in today's AJC with cmts from SECDEF made to Cadets about future of trained, experienced leaders & commanders? Sitting in cubes, working on PwrPnt presentations? Yetch!

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No I did not see the print edition today and I could not find it online when I saw this from you. I am certainly not surprised as there is very little actual troop leading time in an officer's career. In my time it was 12-18 months as a rifle platoon leader, 12-18 months as a specialty platoon or XO. As a captain you have a 12-18 month company command time and then you are not directly leading troops until you are a LTC and battaltion commander. We used to say that Cas3 would get you the powerpoint ranger tab. That was one of the reasons that I got out of public service

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Wedge,The article

should be waiting in your INBOX.

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Wedge, AJC & Gates

It's on pg A-2--I'll try to send it to you via the other channel.

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Here's a teeny budget

cutter. Fire the school crossing guard at McIntosh Trail and Peachtree Pkwy who worked today. At 3:10PM, she was lying down across the front seat of her cart with the flaps down. Looked right at my cart as I went by her and didn't move a muscle. Gets paid how much for how long to do this?

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Were children trying to cross? Were there children near by? Did it occur to you that she may have a problem and needed help? This certainly should be reported if children were present and needed her assistance. She is hired to assist students with crossing intersections - not to stand and wave flags at passing motorists.

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yes-thousands
yes-tens of thousands
no and no
I'll get right on it.
Oh really?
I never knew that....gee whiz...

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What do you think?

Do you even remotely think any of this "money" gotten from teacher pay cuts will EVER make it back to the teachers? I seriously doubt it.