Brown’s bypass discussion on County Commission agenda

Fayette County Commissioner Steve Brown will get his wish: a chance to espouse on the West Fayetteville Bypass during a commission meeting.

The topic appears on the “reports” section at the end of the commission’s agenda for its regular meeting Thursday night, which begins at 7 p.m.

At the commission’s Jan. 27 meeting, Chairman Herb Frady refused to let Brown address the bypass during the reports section of the meeting, noting in part that the matter had not been placed on the agenda in time.

The heated discussion between the two ended with Frady banging the chairman’s gavel multiple times over Brown’s voice of objection. Brown shot back that he was being censored and argued, after his motion to add the bypass to the agenda for discussion died on a 2-2 tie vote.

The fracas ended after Frady suggested if Brown couldn’t remain “in order” that he could be ejected from the meeting.

Brown is expected to ask county staff to look into the actions of the company which is handling property acquisition for the second phase of the bypass. Brown told The Citizen that he has heard reports of questionable tactics being used by the contractor. Brown has said he wants to see the written correspondence between the contractor and the property owners.

Brown also has said he wants to defend himself against allegations that he supported the West Fayetteville Bypass when he was mayor of Peachtree City. Brown also plans to inform bypass opponents that there are no records of a previous commission voting to divert funds from the East Fayetteville Bypass to the West Fayetteville Bypass.

In other business at the meeting, the commission will discuss filling an expired seat on the Fayette County Board of Elections that is currently held by Marilyn Watts, who is the commission’s appointee to the three-member board.

Also on tap is a proposal from staff to add child care facilities to the list of uses from which a business must meet distance requirements to be allowed to serve or sell alcohol.

Another proposal will allow county staff to transmit occupation tax and business license data to the Georgia Department of Revenue in an effort to “ensure proper payment of sales tax.”

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VIDEO And Photos-02/10/11 Fayette County Commission Meeting

If you haven't been able to make it to a Fayette County Board of Commissioners meeting, take a look at these videos and photos of the Fayette County Commission Meeting. See and hear your commissioners and fellow citizens voicing their opinions.

I'm a still photographer usually, so the video may be a bit rough, but you should get an idea of what happens at the meetings.

http://www.kombatkamera.com/gallery/7952631_aotgj#1184931254_mivV6

Thursday, February 10, 2011. Fayetteville, GA. Fayette County Commission meeting. A near capacity crowd shows up for the meeting. Most of the dozen or so speakers during the Public Comment portion of the meeting spoke out against the "West Fayetteville Bypass". No one spoke in favor of the bypass.

Mike

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Mr. Haddix moving on

Of course you are moving on...that's one of your tatics.

I'm wondering as the mayor and leader of this city, how many times have you met with Council member Imker privately to discuss issues like this to work out a compromise and bring harmony to the council and decision making???

On this particular topic...why did Imker bring it before the public if you felt it was inappropriate? Were you doing things behind the scenes like working with only dear ole Doug on your presentation in favor of DAPC, blindsiding new council members???

What I fine interesting about you is that you are the fisrt to cry foul when it doesn't go your way but you never study your own behavior and its impact on others...

Poor leadership....please move on

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the meetings

I've never been to a Haddix meeting. I did go to bunch of Brown and Logsdon meetings when TDK was on the agenda. You can't say Brown didn't practice what he preached. He pretty much let everyone speak. Logsdon wasn't bad either.

I didn't go to the meeting but from what I read it looks like Frady and Haddix are in the same class.

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Mr Haddix and the right to speak

So, last year during budget presentations involving the PTC Development Authority, when things were not going your way, why did you shut down Councilman Imker when he was trying to make his presentation.

Its time you need to be honest...when you do not get your way you get mean and rude and shit down people around you that disagree with you. Then you habor grudges and writing pissy letters and articles to The Citizen twisting the truth.

No leadership, terrible people skills, mean, nasty and not always truthful!

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GAltant, great typo!

That almost cost me a mouthful of coffee!

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bad_ptc

You must admit its an appropriate typo...haha

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Haddix: GAltant

Yes, I called him out of order for doing personal attacks and false accusations about volunteers. That has no place coming from any elected official and sure will not be tolerated when I am chairing a meeting.

In Council/Staff Topics he apologized and admitted he crossed a line. I accepted the apology.

It is the only time I have called anyone out of order to date.

As well there is no right to speak until the Chair gives the floor. I am very liberal on allowing conversations to flow without having to give permission to each speaker.

This article is not about me. I only gave my policy on Public Comment because there was a comparison. So I am moving on.

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Mayor

Would that have been the evening you and Imker decided to have a shouting match emabarrassing all in attendance? You do remember those Boy Scouts and Booth students who were forced to leave due to YOUR lack of managerial ability.

One of your own police captains walked out in disgust.

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MIKE

You need to let up here with the Mayor. What do you hope to accomplish? He was voted in and isn't going to see things as you do.
Talk about the County Chairman if you want a jackass to expound upon!

Brown will only get worse from criticism and gain adherents if he isn't allowed to say what he wants!

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MIKE

If I were Mayor, I would have a talk with that Police Captain! I would embarrass him. Can't fire him unfortunately due to weighted vote, but he could be the dog lot surveyor!

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Mike King

Now that was an embarrassing night....just as bad as the last one when Haddix and Sturnbaum dug in on the "flase" minutes, refusing to change the minutes to reflect the real truth, not what's in Haddix's mind...

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THANKS, Commissioner Brown

Thank you for keeping your word to the people who voted for you.

How wonderful! A man of his word!

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this is overdue

Thank you Steve Brown for pushing it. For one year, citizens have asked to be heard, all they seem to have gotten was a deaf ear.

There are too many unhappy people over the bypass and Steve is doing the right thing. Letting them be heard. What the others have done is push us closer and closer to a law suit and more tax money spent on something everyone is not behind.

This is a democracy. Thank you Steve for demanding it be so. Everyone should have their say.

I wonder if the other 3 commissioners thought about their pay?

$26,000. plus insurance, to hold 2 meetings a month that last about an hour.

I wonder if they have given any thought to that is about $1,000. an hour!

Not too bad. I personally have worked harder and put up with far more for far far less!

All you guys are being asked to do is listen to the people, and explain to them why you are so hell bent to do the west by pass against their wishes! Plus, if you blow it all on the west bypass, are you gonna tax us MORE to finish the East bypass that everyone said would do the most good? If indeed you now dont have the money to do so, you should be impeached!

If you commissioners at anytime, think it is too much to bear, please move on, and we will have a special election.

The way things are going, it would be cheaper than letting 'the 3 kings' sit there week after week and 'hold court' as if we are serfs.

Shame on Frandy and Friends!

Thank you Steve and McCarty.

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suggarfoot, a question

Is the “reports” section at the end of the commission’s agenda open for public comment?

As has happened, many times at PTC City Council meetings, Mayor Haddox has not allowed 'public comment' on a variety of subjects listed on the agenda as they weren't specifically noted for such.

On the flip side Mayor Haddix has allowed some 'public comment' when the agenda didn't specifically note that it would be allowed.

It appears that the public has a right to be heard only when it doesn't upset his Holiness.

I would suggest checking the agenda and or the rules to be sure.

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I don't know the mechanics of it, but it is on the agenda which seems to be a step in the right direction.

There seems to be a lot of people upset and tramatized. Some of these people are having their property paved over for a road that most don't see the logic in. It is winding and rambling, goes past 3 schools in the morning which would grossly slow traffic to 25mph. And most of all has no access to I85 unless it plugs into 74. 74 is already crowded in the mornings. The only thing it seems to do for sure is open up large tracks for developement around the empty schools we didn't need. Once you put several large subdivisions in on it, you will really have a traffic jam on 74.

The east bypass seemed so much more logical to help the people in the southern part of the county. Now it is my understanding they don't have the money to finish it. Seems a waste.

It is my understanding the west by pass was not discussed with the residents well at all. It just seems to be a road not wanted, will not help most unless you want to build a new subdivision.

This should all be put on the agenda and talked about and let these people voice their thoughts and the commisioners voice theirs.

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Haddix: My Policy

If a Public Hearing, obviously we hear from the public.

If an Agenda item is an old agenda item that has already had a Workshop or I allowed Public Comment I do not allow round two unless it is a very unique item. Then I do. An example being the Sims Road extension last Council Meeting.

On cut and dry procedural or house keeping items, no comment.

On hot button items I always ensure there is a Workshop or Public Comment allowed at initial meetings. That has happened on the Leash Law, Cell Towers, Golf Carts, Vacant Homes and Trees, in example.

As well I pushed for broadcasting meetings from 2008 until accomplished in 2010.

Public input is important, but not every issue warrants it. In the past on such issues when I opened it up no one commented.

Each city and the County have their own policies. I believe I have the most liberal policy.

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