Ramsey’s immigration bill needs your help

It’s gratifying to see that Georgia is now dealing head on with its share of a vexing national issue: illegal aliens. Representative Matt Ramsey last week submitted the thoughtful, meaningful, and necessary “Illegal Immigration Reform and Enforcement Act of 2011” to address the many aspects that unlawful entry into the U.S. has on our state.

Many illegal aliens come here to avoid corruption and consequences of capricious edicts and loosely or selectively enforced laws, so it is paradoxically inappropriate that their very first act coming here is to break the law.

The U.S. Constitution clearly designates immigration as one of the limited responsibilities of the federal government, but past and present administrations of both parties have shirked that responsibility, eroding the rule of law and, by extension, a more orderly society.

The states, consequently, have had to shoulder much of the ever increasing burden of the feds’ pandering to assorted special interest groups.

The act also seeks to restore justice (that is, the equal application of the law) by promoting a level playing field here for all those who legally join our ranks as Georgia citizens.

Providing the same benefits to illegal aliens that we afford to those who legally earned their citizenship diminishes the effort and sacrifice of our naturalized citizens. It is patently unjust.

Failure to deal with the issue also encourages a black market in labor, supported by employers who shift a large part of their normal employee costs onto Georgia’s taxpayers.

We are taxed an estimated $2 billion to $2.2 billion annually for benefits to 480,000 illegal aliens (more than Arizona) because many of their employers are not paying them enough to support themselves.

Employers of seasonal workers, of course, may sponsor aliens into the U.S. under the H-2B program, but often fail to do so because it requires them to pay the prevailing wage. They’d rather you make up the difference between their black market payroll and prevailing wages.

Rep. Ramsey and his cosponsors clearly recognize immigrants’ many contributions to Georgia and America, and encourage current and future generations from abroad to seek legal immigration and add their individual stamp on American exceptionalism.

Ramsey cannot prevail, however, without your involvement. This will become an economic, legal, and very emotional issue that will be ardently opposed by special interests and those who feel compassion is best served by turning a blind eye to the orderly processes to accommodate future citizens from abroad.

It’s time to step up.

Bob Ross

Peachtree City, Ga.

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We must join together

For decades the American taxpayers have been sustaining illegal aliens, without their knowledge or prior permission. Including in this immigration invasion are six secret amnesties. It’s well documented that Billions of dollars have been swallowed up in welfare, as at least 45 billion dollars leave this country in wire transfers annually. It is blatantly obvious that either the Liberal-Democrats or the Republican have revealed no intention to stop this parody of our laws. For the Lib-Democrats its more votes, for Republicans its discount labor. The TEA PARTY is the only true remedy to halt the illegal alien occupation and would strengthen our laws. Underneath this mask of both parties is a kind of shadow government. In a ominous dark corner is the rhetoric of billionaire George Soros and his far Leftist-Socialist-Marxist agenda, competing with the Republicans who are the pawns of their benefactors, the mega-corporations.

The membership of the TEA PARTY is YOU--the ordinary people, comprising of the dissatisfied of American people. Both parties are to blame for this deadlock and the failure to enforce the laws, because of the extreme special interest lobbyists. Every immigration tool such as E-Verify, Secure Communities and 287 (g) police laws must be permanent, with painful fines, lose of assets and prison for business owners. Without it the poor of other countries will never cease.

You have seen the power of TEA PARTY, as currently seen in the new politicians, refusing to bow down to the Senator Harry Reid's or majority speaker as John Boehner who are disposed to compromise of cutting $100 billion dollars from the US deficit. The Tea Party will not sanction this controversy issue and will stand their ground, in the same old "Business as Usual" beliefs--even if the US Government has to close down. Republicans have been infiltrated by honest, sincere tea party members, including lawmakers who have deserted the old party corruption and greed. Currently The TEA PARTY is mobilizing into giant engine, as millions of delusional Americans are joining the membership. The Tea PARTY believes in Fiscal Responsibility, Limited Government, a Free Fair Market and a Strong National Security.

These principles require each administration honor their oath of allegiance, to protect and defend America from enemies domestic and foreign. This is an ultimatum of the TEA PARTY to secure-tighten our border with a double fence, employ 5000 military personal fully armed; halt the bleeding of our countries financial welfare resources by illegal aliens. None of these policies are being enforced, as billions of dollars are still being consumed through the education, medical care for foreigners who have illegally residing here. Join the party that will halt every parody of the "Rule of Law" that consumes the United States entitlement programs. Exceptional skilled people can always immigrate here, but we have only space for millions of our own poor, the lowest of income, that need jobs THE TEA PARTY demands it doesn't go to foreign nationals and we must come together to halt this pandemic.

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My husband is from Japan. We payed thousands of dollars and subjected ourselves to retinal scans, fingerprints, and interviews. It takes a lot of work but it is not hard to do. It is less intrusive than a body scan at the airport. It bothers me that Mexicans come here without proper paperwork and often involve themselves in illegal activity. I am ready for illegals to be banned from schools. They are banned from college so why are we spending our tax dollars to send them to school so they can pick apples. You don't have to have a highschool diploma to work illegally.

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Plyler vs. Doe
dolphn528 wrote:

...I am ready for illegals to be banned from schools. They are banned from college so why are we spending our tax dollars to send them to school so they can pick apples. You don't have to have a highschool diploma to work illegally.

The United States Supreme Court ruled in 1982 that it is unconstitutional to deny illegal immigrant children access to public schools in the case of Plyler vs. Doe

The court ruled that denying children access to school based on the status of their parents was a clear violation of the 14th amendments.

Whether you like it or not, it is the law of the land.

Do you support the Constitution?

or

Are you one of these Tea Party types who gives lip service to the Constitution but secretly wishes for a dictator to take over America and make it safe for white people again?

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Chris Bacon: Histrionic rant in lieu of facts

Read the posts. 'nuff said

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Citizen Bob

I'll say it one more time:

Jail for 60 days any CEO or any citizen who hires any worker without checking with the government as to citizenship! Especially sub-contractors who are hired to work for anyone should be jailed in those circumstances.
That will stop them from staying here.

When I owned a business I completed a government form (I-9) on every hire--it wasn't difficult.

As to someone wanting to determine if a child is worthy of being schooled, that would also be resolved by the same practice.

We must force the illegals to go home and take their children with them---citizens of the USA or not. The children of course could return at maturity with a job.

Stop the BS of, I want them, I don't want them to work.

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Read them indeed

Funny how those Teahadists all profess to have a deep-seated love for the Constitution, but work tirelessly to enact unconstitutional legislation.

More than a bit of a disconnect, no?

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Ramsey's Immigration Bill

Matt Ramsey continues to build a bridge between his corporate Republican masters and the racist rabble known as the Tea Party.

Lawyer Ramsey introduced a blatantly unconstitutional bill in the legislature that effectively designates Hispanics as second class citizens.

His odious legislation, a copy of the steaming pile of legislative feces on the books in Arizona, usurps Federal control of immigration policy by the state of Georgia.

This sort of legislation has wasted millions of dollars of taxpayer dollars in Arizona.

The legislation essentially requires native Spanish speakers to carry their birth certificates around at all times, as a routine traffic stop would now give police officers "reasonable cause" to investigate someone's citizenship.

It also pays a bounty to law enforcement for each Hispanic they incarcerate, giving financial incentives to law enforcement officers to single out Hispanics.

Finally, it provides a "mark of the Beast" provision to identify "good" Hispanics.

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Chris- grow up

Discuss the facts of the issue and leave the childish name-calling at home.

Understand that Tea Parties vigorously support constitutionally-limited government, free markets, and the rule of law. Their membership proudly and appropriately includes people of all races and gender.

Read the draft legislation and The U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 8.4) to see that the state legislation in no way usurps the federal government's authority.

Stop creating delusional provisions in the bill that do not exist.

Recognize that the U.S. Attorney General has caused AZ to spend the big bucks to defend a legally constituted state law that was legally enacted by its citizens' duly elected representatives. But those costs pale in comparison to residents' taxes spent on illegal aliens because the same Administration (and its predecessors) failed to uphold their constitutional responsibility to manage immigration and control U.S. borders.

And provide your home address for some illegal aliens to move in to your property whether you allow them to or not.

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Citizen Bob his usual fare

all fat and no meat.

All rhetoric and little facts.

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Immigration

The general law of the land or at least concept is you cannot show bias or prejudice (thus TSA strip seaches grandma while letting a more obvious risk walk through), so legislation that would permit law enforcement to selectively discriminate can only lead to problems with litigation from many directions.

We forget that we are all sons and daughters of immigrants (third generation for me) as the native inhabitants had their property rights terminated. Realistically, illegal immigration is not going to stop or diminish as long as it costs money and requires huge hurdles to do it legally (first hand expeience at the cost and time). However, I note that the deer in my backyard will stop and eat the corn that I put out. Now, if I keep it in my garage, then guess what, they move along. So, as long as there is an opportunity for employment, then illegal immigrants will continue to come. When we begin chasing down the employers and penalizing them for knowingly hiring illegals (and one could say taking jobs from legal residents), then the incentive will be removed. After all, I have to show forms of ID every time I take a job, open up a bank account, visit the airport, buy property, get a business license....... You cannot illiminate the drug problem by jailing drug addicts (always more where they came from), but by eliminating the pushers. We need to take the same approach with illegal immigration. Walls, targeted interdiction, deportation are little more than band-aids for a mortally wounded system.

By the way, thanks Bob for intelligent discussion. At times, these blogs are like watching a child's fight.

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Oh NOE! Illegal Aliens!
Citizen Bob wrote:

Discuss the facts of the issue and leave the childish name-calling at home.

Understand that Tea Parties vigorously support constitutionally-limited government, free markets, and the rule of law. Their membership proudly and appropriately includes people of all races and gender.

The Tea Party a bunch of race baiting, jingoistic, xenophobic, sheltered, scared little white men (and their wives) who are angry that they now have to share political power with non-whites.

Citizen Bob wrote:

Read the draft legislation and The U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 8.4) to see that the state legislation in no way usurps the federal government's authority.

Stop creating delusional provisions in the bill that do not exist.

The bigoted legislation introduced by bigot Ramsey is a carbon copy of legislation introduced in Arizona and subsequently declared to be unconstitutional in federal court. The only delusion here emanates from you.

Citizen Bob wrote:

Recognize that the U.S. Attorney General has caused AZ to spend the big bucks to defend a legally constituted state law that was legally enacted by its citizens' duly elected representatives. But those costs pale in comparison to residents' taxes spent on illegal aliens because the same Administration (and its predecessors) failed to uphold their constitutional responsibility to manage immigration and control U.S. borders.

How dare that dastardly Attorney General interfere with their constitutional right to enact unconstitutional legislation!! Oh wait...

Citizen Bob wrote:

And provide your home address for some illegal aliens to move in to your property whether you allow them to or not.

Just as soon as you post your home address and some pictures of your daughters. My illegal alien buddies will likely be lookin' for some good cheap fun.

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ChrisP: False conclusion

It's hardly just the "Tea Party" that is leading some kind of revolt against illegal immigration, nor is it the purview of only the white man. There are plenty of blacks that are fed up with the illegal immigration issue and the federal govt's pathetic non-efforts to get control of the problem.

Here's an article of how some blacks in Arizona liked the AZ law themselves:
http://www.examiner.com/african-american-conservative-in-los-angeles/los...

and it's not like it's hard to find plenty of columns and opinions from other blacks who support reigning in the illegal immigration currently going on along with demanding the feds and spineless politicians stop ignoring the issue. Not a TP or White Man deal here, especially since the people who have got reamed the worst from illegal immigration ain't whitey.

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Correct again Nuk, Bacon fails to see past his own inbred

and closeted bigotry.

His myopic view is not really based in any real evidence of Teaparty violence or racism. It is simply based on his own resentment and most likely bigoted views.

We have seen some of this in his postings lately. It does not take much intelligence to find that illegal immigration is viewed by all as a serious issue to be dealt with. If the Federal Government is unwilling or unable to do so then the States have every right to do so to protect their sovereignty.

It does take some intellectual honesty, however, to move past ones own prejudices and allow that even opposite ideologically aligned groups can have such concerns without racial overtones.

http://davidwebbonline.com/

http://biggovernment.com/jmsimpson/2011/01/20/anita-moncrief-forms-first...

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The ole "good Germans" argument!
Observerofu wrote:

and closeted bigotry.

His myopic view is not really based in any real evidence of Teaparty violence or racism. It is simply based on his own resentment and most likely bigoted views.

Not all Tea Party members are racist. Only about 10% of them are. A much larger number, though, yourself included, are race-baiters. You guys stay awake at night worried that somehow, somewhere, some undeservin' minority person is gettin' a benefit that ought to be restricted to white folks only.

Observerofu wrote:

We have seen some of this in his postings lately. It does not take much intelligence to find that illegal immigration is viewed by all as a serious issue to be dealt with. If the Federal Government is unwilling or unable to do so then the States have every right to do so to protect their sovereignty.

The federal courts disagree with your conjecture. Not that it matters to someone like you, who refuses to recognize the authority of a Federal government, particularly one where the leader of the Executive branch is non-white.

Observerofu wrote:

It does take some intellectual honesty, however, to move past ones own prejudices and allow that even opposite ideologically aligned groups can have such concerns without racial overtones.

Ja, vee should all be "good Germans" und ignore der Tea Party Brownshirts.

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That's correct NUK,

Bacon seems to be stuck in record groove - tea party this and tea party that. It's not just the tea party who calls for compliance with our nation's immigration laws.

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Cyclist and Nuk

By no means did I imply that xenophobia was exclusive to the Tea Party. Many others not affiliated with the Teahadists are fed up with illegal immigrants.

My argument was, and is, that immigration falls under the domain of the Federal government, not the state government. To date, the courts have agreed with my argument. This does not sit well with Herr Bob Ross, natürlich.

I wonder if Mr. Ross recalls another politician from years back that rose to prominence by singling out a group of people for Sonderbehandlung ("special treatment")?

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Hey Bacon, taz em and tag em, deport them

Thats what should be done to illegals in this country. You either follow our immigration laws or dont bother coming. We dont need you. What part of they are breaking the laws dont you illegal lovers understand. I cant break the law and survive. So why in the hell should they. Get out your tasers and use them. And dont lock them up. Take DNA and send them packing.

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Yeah well, it gets votes in some states!

Votes is power and money. Mexicans are Mexicans.

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The Problem is the American Mind Set

The law is fine but cannot be properly enforced by an American. We are so pre-determine that all illegals are Mexican. An illegal can be any Nationality beside American. Just read this blog if I didn't have a brain I would think illegal means all Mexican's. It becomes a bigoted bill when Americans must enforce the law. We just don't get it, without a label of some sort we don't know how to characterize anyone. If the law is what it is then all drivers/citizens must carry papers. The Supreme Court will have it no other way because the only way to enforce it is through racial profilling.

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