F’ville allies with Ga. Revenue Dept. to find tax cheats

Fayetteville is hooking up with state revenuers to uncover sales tax cheats.

The Fayetteville City Council Jan. 6 adopted a resolution joining several other Georgia cities participating in the new Georgia Department of Revenue (DOR) Sales Tax Compliance Program that encourages cities to share their business occupational tax records with DOR.

The resolution states that the voluntary program is intended to verify that businesses paying occupational taxes and regulatory fees are also paying their state and local sales taxes.

Explaining the program in a recent memo, City Clerk Anne Barnard said that DOR will compare the city’s occupational tax records with the state’s sales tax records to determine if discrepancies exist. Businesses that do not appear on sales tax records will be investigated, Barnard noted.

The Georgia Municipal Association (GMA) is working with DOR on the new initiative. Barnard said GMA’s goal is to get as many cities as possible to pass the resolution and participate in the program. Beta testing for the program is now occurring in Cartersville, Rome and Muscogee County.

The resolution gives the city the right to opt out of the program at a later date if desired.

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Well at least Fact Check.Org...

got this right:

....stems from a partisan analysis based on guesswork...

Sure sounds like a lot of the bills that Obama is signing.

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Cyclist - IRS agents

So, I guess according to Bacon we don't have to do anything when it comes to HC, we just ignore it and don't pay the "penalty", we won't have a hoard of IRS agents enforcing it.

No retribution at all, we won't be audited or anything.....sure, right.

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"according to Bacon"

Please, Petey, I'm asking you very nicely not to put words in my mouth.

That's Observerofu's job, and he'll be very cross with you if he discovers you doing his job for him.

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OK - Bacon

Thanks for the warning, I don't want to get in trouble with some on this board.

But I take it from your response that we do have something to worry about concerning IRS enforcement of the new HC law?

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PTC Observer

Even Bacon's ally "birdman" noted he was going to have to pay more taxes becuase of Obama HC. We are all going to pay dearly. We better hope that the commerce clause thingy doesn't pass judicial muster.

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Cyclist - true

Unfortunately, I have no confidence in the Supreme Court.....but it's our only hope. The politician are playing lip service, they want it to happen. Taxes, taxes, taxes.....power, power, power.

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Spending

millions to look for peanuts, isn't that just like government.

There are no easy answers to our revenue shortfalls, but one that is always overlooked by the government and last the to be considered is cutting the size and scope of government.

Mr. Obama will hire 15 to 20,000 new IRS agents to enforce his new healthcare law, but what do you want to bet that's not how they will be used. They will be used to harass citizens.

We have turned into France.

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Another day, another fact check

Fact Checking the fringe right's "16,000 new IRS agents" claim.

Good Morning, Petey C! How are things in the Empire of Libertaria this fine morning? Keeping warm, I trust.

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Bacon - Very

warm thinking about all the extras with the new HC law. Extra taxes....

Here's the claim on the agents:

A new analysis by the Joint Economic Committee and the House Ways & Means Committee minority staff estimates up to 16,500 new IRS personnel will be needed to collect, examine and audit new tax information mandated on families and small businesses in the ‘reconciliation’ bill being taken up by the U.S. House of Representatives this weekend. ...

Scores of new federal mandates and fifteen different tax increases totaling $400 billion are imposed under the Democratic House bill. In addition to more complicated tax returns, families and small businesses will be forced to reveal further tax information to the IRS, provide proof of ‘government approved’ health care and submit detailed sales information to comply with new excise taxes.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/16500-more-irs-...

Americans for Tax Reform today released the following “By the Numbers” breakdown of ObamaCare:

The number of new tax increases in the healthcare bill: 19

The number of tax increases that unquestionably violate President Obama’s “firm pledge” not to raise “any form” of taxes on families making less than $250,000: 7

The tax increase over the first decade if the healthcare bill becomes law: $497 billion

The top federal tax rate on wages and self-employment earnings under this bill: 43.4%

The annual tax hike for every man, woman, and child in America: $165

The top federal tax rate on early distributions from HSAs under this bill: 59.6%

The most parents of special-needs kids can save tax-free for tuition in FSAs (currently, the amount is unlimited): $2500

Read more: http://www.atr.org/obamacare-numbers-a4664##ixzz1B1l7W300

Have a wonderful day Bacon and you stay warm too! Just thinking about all those benefits coming in 2014 just warms all of our hearts. Knowing how well the government runs things make us even more satified with this whole thing......thanks for supporting it Bacon. Gee I don't know what we would do if we didn't have people like you around to take care of us all.

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best way to increase revenue..

but some goverment is to stupid to realize where there pay check and budget come from the more money collected in sales tax only reduces how much we pay in property tax so as a taxpayer I hope they all get busted if they aint paying. all department of revenue employees are checked for tax filing, compliance and are not allowed to owe taxes period.(and tax returns are audited continously while employed) maybe if the citys and countys would co operate with revenue they could get this performed on all city and county elected officials and employees.

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Can anyone tell me why any Ga. city

is NOT involved in this program?

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Could the rationale have anything to do with a certain county commissioner being disqualified prior/during a campaign? Just saying.

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I'm sorry, I don't follow. Are you talking about Maxwell/McCarthy?

My point is this program will generate unreported tax revenue for any city that signs up for it. Sounds like a win/win for every city.

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You are absolutely correct

You are absolutely correct from a revenue generating standpoint. My point being that ANY government official in office or vying for a position could be disqualified based on unpaid sales tax. The same can and should be done for individuals as well as businesses (register a vehicle, pay the taxes due).

I'll bet that politicians and government employees would be among those found delinquent.

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I believe you are correct, too

I think we might find a few delinquents on the list. I'd love to see a list of the cities that don't go onto this program and the reasoning from those in charge as to why not. There might be quite a few stories there.

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Delinquent or Non-paid taxes

I guess I don't understand why there has to be a special program that you "sign up" for---unless there's some sort of legal prohibition, why doesn't the State do that sort of thing automatically?

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